Concussion Rule in Ohio

[asdf]

Originally Posted by Eastshire

No, the Ohio law starts with the duty to send him out. It also requires a certain level of training in regards to recognizing the apparent symptoms of a concussion.

The duty to send him out is only kicks in when the official observes the symptoms. (or coach, trainer, doctor, administrator...etc)

What you saw may be different than what an official saw.

In the end, you may be 100% correct that the player was concussed. However you cannot prove what anyone saw with their own eyes.

[bigjohn]

http://ohsaa.org/medicine/Concussion...eb2013_PPE.pdf

Isn't that the reasoning behind all the concussion recognition training??

Aren't all these adults supposed to be trained to see such things??

Isn't that the gist of this legislation??



Thank you for all that you do and have been doing to provide education to your coaching staff, parents and students
regarding the prevention, recognition and management of concussions and head injuries. For the last two years, the
OHSAA has been at the forefront of the rules writing and education process to respond to this critical health issue
that can have a devastating impact on our student-athletes. We will continue that mission to protect our students and
all those who work in the interscholastic athletics arena.


Interpretations
Concussions
The last two (2) years the NFHS has been clear in its emphasis on concussion management. The NFHS Rules Power Points have all highlighted this, and the SUGGESTED GUIDELINES FOR MANAGEMENT OF CONCUSSION is included as an appendix in all rule books. There is a new North Carolina state law that mandates how athletes are to be treated by appropriate athletic training and licensed medical personnel. I am giving you this information as a re-emphasis on the seriousness regarding concussions and our responsibilities as officials. Coaches are also being reminded regarding the guidelines of return-to-play procedures they must follow before allowing the athlete to return to the contest.

As an official, if you observe or sense an athlete may be compromised, you are to guide/indicate (to) the athlete and the head coach to remove the athlete from the contest for them to “take a look” at the athlete. At that time, your responsibility for the athlete is complete. You are not a trained medical person who is responsible for diagnosing concussions. But, we do want you to be aware of the symptoms which may indicate an athlete has sustained a concussion (defined as a traumatic brain injury that interferes with normal brain function). The symptoms as listed by the NFHS Rules are as follows:

Headache
Fogginess
Difficultly concentrating
Easily confused
Slowed thought process
Difficulty with memory
Nausea
Lack of energy, tiredness
Dizziness, poor balance
Blurred vision
Sensitive to light and sounds
Mood changes—irritable, anxious, or tearful
Appears dazed or stunned
Confused about assignment
Forgets plays
Unsure of game, score or opponent
Moves clumsily
Answers questions slowly
Loses consciousness
Shows behavior or personality changes

[scrounge]

I have no idea what the officials saw or what the actual symptoms or signs were. If a player is down and is surrounded by trainers, coaches, etc., I'm not going over there and poking my nose in to see if he might possibly be exhibiting signs or symptoms of a concussion. If I see them, I'll fulfill my duties under the law. But if the trainers are attending to the kid, then I'm not looking and I'm not seeing. The law's on them too.

Frankly, I think the concern over the OH law is much ado about nothing.

[asdf]

Originally Posted by scrounge

Frankly, I think the concern over the OH law is much ado about nothing.

Agreed....

It has more to do with "training" and return to play procedures/reporting than what's observed on the field.

[Eastshire]

Originally Posted by asdf

The duty to send him out is only kicks in when the official observes the symptoms. (or coach, trainer, doctor, administrator...etc)

What you saw may be different than what an official saw.

In the end, you may be 100% correct that the player was concussed. However you cannot prove what anyone saw with their own eyes.

I'm not trying to prove what they saw. I'm saying that if symptoms of a concussion are apparent from the stands and are not observed by the crew, the term negligence comes to mind. That's not a term you want to hear when you have a legal obligation.

Of course, the greater responsibility under the law would be held by the trainer who saw enough of an apparent concussion symptom to give a concussion assessment yet failed to do his legal duty to prevent the player from returning.

[asdf]

Originally Posted by Eastshire

I'm not trying to prove what they saw. I'm saying that if symptoms of a concussion are apparent from the stands and are not observed by the crew, the term negligence comes to mind. That's not a term you want to hear when you have a legal obligation.

Of course, the greater responsibility under the law would be held by the trainer who saw enough of an apparent concussion symptom to give a concussion assessment yet failed to do his legal duty to prevent the player from returning.

I can't see into someone's eyes from the stands.
I can't determine whether or not a player is confused from the stands.
I can't hear whether or not a player says his head hurts from the stands.
I can't hear the doctor or trainers questions from the stands.
I can't hear the answers from the stands

The list goes on.....

No way you are proving negligence from the stands.

[bigjohn]

I do not feel the officials are to be held accountable here. I think the RTP protocol is 100% on the head coach of the school that put him back in the game. That is who the memo was sent to basically. He works for the AD and Principal and they are all at fault if this protocol was broken.



http://www.ohsaa.org/medicine/Concus...egulations.pdf


RETURN TO PLAY PROTOCOL
If a student is removed from practice or competition due to a suspected concussion or head injury,
the coach or referee who removes the student shall not permit the student, ON THE SAME DAY THE
STUDENT IS REMOVED, to return to that practice or competition or to participate in any other
practice or competition for which the coach or contest official is responsible. Thereafter, which
means no earlier than the next day, the coach or contest officials shall not permit the student to return
to practice or competition until both of the following conditions are satisfied:
1) The student’s condition is assessed by either of the following:
a. A physician, who is a person authorized under Chapter 4731 of the Ohio
Revised Code (OCR) to practice medicine and surgery or osteopathic
medicine or surgery (M.D. or D.O.)
b. Any other licensed health care provider that the school district board of
education or other governing authority of a chartered or non-chartered
nonpublic school, authorizes to assess the student who has been removed
from practice or competition.
2) The student receives written authorization that it is safe for the student to return to
practice or competition from a physician or other licensed health care provider authorized
to grant the clearance. Click here http://ohsaa.org/medicine/AuthorizationToReenter.pdf
to retrieve the OHSAA’s Medical Authorization to Return To Play (RTP) form.

http://www.ohsaa.org/medicine/sports...sion_Resources

[bigjohn]

http://www.ohsaa.org/medicine/Author...nToReenter.pdf

[bigjohn]

http://www.ohsaa.org/members/Memos/2013-08-30.pdf

or maybe not!

3. Concussion:When a player has signs*or*symptoms*of*a*concussion*he*is*suspended*
from*the*game*and*may*not*reenter*the*game.**This* is*based*upon*Ohio*House*Bill*143.**
If*an*Ohio*Team*plays*a*game*in*another*state,*thi s*Rule*applies.**If*an*out*of*state*team*
plays*a*game*in*Ohio,*this*Rule*applies.**This*is* because*it*is*a*state*law*now.*


Go to the 8:25 mark, the hit and then the helmet on the turf caused him to be taken out of the game.

[asdf]

Originally Posted by bigjohn

or maybe not!


Go to the 8:25 mark, the hit and then the helmet on the turf caused him to be taken out of the game.

You one-upped Zapruder on this clip.