DPI - First time replaying the down

[Texas Aggie]

Does Fed have spot of the foul up to 15 yard enforcement like the NCAA?

No AFD is just NUTS! The other night in a JV game we had 2 DPIs inside the 5 -- one in the end zone -- and the offensive team STILL didn't score with about 9 plays. They were penalized themselves a couple of times and ended up committing grounding on 4th and goal from around the 15. I think we played like 4 consecutive first downs!

[johnnyg08]

Many of us on here thought of the major advantage the defense gains from no AFD on DPI the day the rule change came out.

There were obviously no officials on the committee who were willing to make a case against getting rid of automatic first down. (I suppose they may have been out voted)

[scrounge]

Originally Posted by johnnyg08

Many of us on here thought of the major advantage the defense gains from no AFD on DPI the day the rule change came out.

There were obviously no officials on the committee who were willing to make a case against getting rid of automatic first down. (I suppose they may have been out voted)

I don't think it was that so much as the only way they could eliminate loss of down on offense was accepting no AFD on defense. Some of the commentary was that it was a compromise to keep the balance of the change roughly the same - though it probably isn't. Some wanted to eliminate it on offense only, some on defense only, so in true committee fashion they compromised and satisfied no one.

[HLin NC]

I don't think it was that so much as the only way they could eliminate loss of down on offense was accepting no AFD on defense. Some of the commentary was that it was a compromise to keep the balance of the change roughly the same - though it probably isn't. Some wanted to eliminate it on offense only, some on defense only, so in true committee fashion they compromised and satisfied no one.

That is pretty much what we were told at the state clinic.

[Rich]

Originally Posted by scrounge

I don't think it was that so much as the only way they could eliminate loss of down on offense was accepting no AFD on defense. Some of the commentary was that it was a compromise to keep the balance of the change roughly the same - though it probably isn't. Some wanted to eliminate it on offense only, some on defense only, so in true committee fashion they compromised and satisfied no one.

And next year we'll probably see the AFD back in.

[Texas Aggie]

the only way they could eliminate loss of down on offense was accepting no AFD on defense

One has NOTHING to do with the other.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by Texas Aggie

One has NOTHING to do with the other.

Maybe true, but not in the minds of the rules lords. Was't this rationale specifically mentioned when the change was announced?

[Welpe]

Originally Posted by Texas Aggie

Does Fed have spot of the foul up to 15 yard enforcement like the NCAA?

No, Fed is a simple 15 yards or half the distance.

I've never understood equating AFD with a loss of down. They are very different IMO. A 15 yard penalty PLUS a loss of down was a complete drive killer. They might as well have just given the ball to the defense.

[Robert Goodman]

Originally Posted by Welpe

I've never understood equating AFD with a loss of down.

Heck, I've never "understood" previous spot enforcement for DPI.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by Robert Goodman

Heck, I've never "understood" previous spot enforcement for DPI.

That is because you must not understand penalty enforcement.

Peace

[CT1]

Originally Posted by Robert Goodman

Heck, I've never "understood" previous spot enforcement for DPI.

Have you ever seen a wide-open receiver drop a pass?

[Robert Goodman]

Originally Posted by CT1

Have you ever seen a wide-open receiver drop a pass?

Yeah, but they sure drop it a lot easier when someone gives them a good zetz as they're reaching for it!

[voiceoflg]

Originally Posted by Robert Goodman

Yeah, but they sure drop it a lot easier when someone gives them a good zetz as they're reaching for it!

I'm glad I saw definition one. Putting definition two in context to your post made me laugh.

[jTheUmp]

Had this happen in my game on Friday:

4th and 5 from the B-8.
DPI in the end zone.
Now it's 4th and 1 from the B-4.

Amazingly, the Team A coach didn't complain at all about not getting the AFD... it helped, I suppose, that his team scored a touchdown on the next play.