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Old Thu Jan 03, 2013, 11:00pm
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1 point safety

I posted on FB,

"K-State block Oregon's PAT. The ball is recovered by KSU in the field of play. The player runs into his own end zone, tosses the ball to a teammate who fumbles the ball and is tackle in the end zone. Isn't that a 1 point safety?"

Upon the return from commercial, Ron Cherry confirmed my suspicions.

Never seen it before.
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Old Thu Jan 03, 2013, 11:12pm
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I called it! As a trivia buff, this is one of those plays that is a great trivia question.

Can B score anything if they return the ball for a TD? If not, then I think the Canadian rule is better: it's dead when B is deemed to have possession.
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Old Thu Jan 03, 2013, 11:14pm
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It is more likely to happen in a college game because the play is not immediately dead on a blocked kick or even a fumble recovery.

I am hearing it last happen in a Texas-Texas Tech game in 2004.

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Old Thu Jan 03, 2013, 11:23pm
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I called it! As a trivia buff, this is one of those plays that is a great trivia question.

Can B score anything if they return the ball for a TD? If not, then I think the Canadian rule is better: it's dead when B is deemed to have possession.
Yes...they would get 2 points.
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Never seen it before.
+1 Certainly an odd one!
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Old Fri Jan 04, 2013, 08:50am
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It is more likely to happen in a college game because the play is not immediately dead on a blocked kick or even a fumble recovery.

I am hearing it last happen in a Texas-Texas Tech game in 2004.

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According to the boxscore, nope.
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Old Fri Jan 04, 2013, 08:53am
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According to the boxscore, nope.
Here's the Texas / Texas A&M clip.

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Old Fri Jan 04, 2013, 09:06am
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Just saw the replay on Sportscenter, including the white-hat's address to the crowd.

Thought he did a great job of explaining.
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Old Fri Jan 04, 2013, 09:30am
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It is more likely to happen in a college game because the play is not immediately dead on a blocked kick or even a fumble recovery.

I am hearing it last happen in a Texas-Texas Tech game in 2004.

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Not Tech. The Aggies.
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Old Fri Jan 04, 2013, 09:30am
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Just saw the replay on Sportscenter, including the white-hat's address to the crowd.

Thought he did a great job of explaining.
Indeed he did.

Now, if Oregon had gone for two and fumbled at the two, and K-State did the same thing, running into the end zone and get stopped there, would it be a two point safety?
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Old Fri Jan 04, 2013, 09:35am
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Indeed he did.

Now, if Oregon had gone for two and fumbled at the two, and K-State did the same thing, running into the end zone and get stopped there, would it be a two point safety?
No. Why would it be. If Oregon went for two, and it was intercepted and returned all the way, would KSU get 6 pts? Of course not.

The scoring for a safety during a try is 1 point. Period.
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Old Fri Jan 04, 2013, 09:38am
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Sure looked like an illegal forward pass before the eventual end of the play. Didn't matter, of course.
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Old Fri Jan 04, 2013, 09:54am
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No. Why would it be. If Oregon went for two, and it was intercepted and returned all the way, would KSU get 6 pts? Of course not.

The scoring for a safety during a try is 1 point. Period.
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Old Fri Jan 04, 2013, 10:09am
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Indeed he did.

Now, if Oregon had gone for two and fumbled at the two, and K-State did the same thing, running into the end zone and get stopped there, would it be a two point safety?
On a try in the NCAA, a TD is worth 2 points and a safety with worth 1 point, regardless of which team scores.
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Old Fri Jan 04, 2013, 12:07pm
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Sure looked like an illegal forward pass before the eventual end of the play. Didn't matter, of course.
I agree with both claims. If the crew hadn't all been thinking "HOLY #*@%!," they might have grabbed that.

Think the FBS crews will be prepping that one before next season?
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