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BktBallRef Thu Jan 03, 2013 11:00pm

1 point safety
 
I posted on FB,

"K-State block Oregon's PAT. The ball is recovered by KSU in the field of play. The player runs into his own end zone, tosses the ball to a teammate who fumbles the ball and is tackle in the end zone. Isn't that a 1 point safety?"

Upon the return from commercial, Ron Cherry confirmed my suspicions.

Never seen it before.

JugglingReferee Thu Jan 03, 2013 11:12pm

I called it! As a trivia buff, this is one of those plays that is a great trivia question.

Can B score anything if they return the ball for a TD? If not, then I think the Canadian rule is better: it's dead when B is deemed to have possession.

JRutledge Thu Jan 03, 2013 11:14pm

It is more likely to happen in a college game because the play is not immediately dead on a blocked kick or even a fumble recovery.

I am hearing it last happen in a Texas-Texas Tech game in 2004.

Peace

bisonlj Thu Jan 03, 2013 11:23pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by JugglingReferee (Post 869952)
I called it! As a trivia buff, this is one of those plays that is a great trivia question.

Can B score anything if they return the ball for a TD? If not, then I think the Canadian rule is better: it's dead when B is deemed to have possession.

Yes...they would get 2 points.

grunewar Fri Jan 04, 2013 05:17am

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Originally Posted by BktBallRef (Post 869945)
Never seen it before.

+1 Certainly an odd one!

Matt Fri Jan 04, 2013 08:50am

Quote:

Originally Posted by JRutledge (Post 869953)
It is more likely to happen in a college game because the play is not immediately dead on a blocked kick or even a fumble recovery.

I am hearing it last happen in a Texas-Texas Tech game in 2004.

Peace

According to the boxscore, nope.

Rich Fri Jan 04, 2013 08:53am

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Originally Posted by Matt (Post 870004)
According to the boxscore, nope.

Here's the Texas / Texas A&M clip.

Rarest play in NCAA Football (1pt safety) - YouTube

jTheUmp Fri Jan 04, 2013 09:06am

Just saw the replay on Sportscenter, including the white-hat's address to the crowd.

Thought he did a great job of explaining.

MD Longhorn Fri Jan 04, 2013 09:30am

Quote:

Originally Posted by JRutledge (Post 869953)
It is more likely to happen in a college game because the play is not immediately dead on a blocked kick or even a fumble recovery.

I am hearing it last happen in a Texas-Texas Tech game in 2004.

Peace

Not Tech. The Aggies.

voiceoflg Fri Jan 04, 2013 09:30am

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Originally Posted by jTheUmp (Post 870007)
Just saw the replay on Sportscenter, including the white-hat's address to the crowd.

Thought he did a great job of explaining.

Indeed he did.

Now, if Oregon had gone for two and fumbled at the two, and K-State did the same thing, running into the end zone and get stopped there, would it be a two point safety?

MD Longhorn Fri Jan 04, 2013 09:35am

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Originally Posted by voiceoflg (Post 870011)
Indeed he did.

Now, if Oregon had gone for two and fumbled at the two, and K-State did the same thing, running into the end zone and get stopped there, would it be a two point safety?

No. Why would it be. If Oregon went for two, and it was intercepted and returned all the way, would KSU get 6 pts? Of course not.

The scoring for a safety during a try is 1 point. Period.

Rich Fri Jan 04, 2013 09:38am

Sure looked like an illegal forward pass before the eventual end of the play. Didn't matter, of course.

voiceoflg Fri Jan 04, 2013 09:54am

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Originally Posted by MD Longhorn (Post 870013)
No. Why would it be. If Oregon went for two, and it was intercepted and returned all the way, would KSU get 6 pts? Of course not.

The scoring for a safety during a try is 1 point. Period.

Thanks.

Altor Fri Jan 04, 2013 10:09am

Quote:

Originally Posted by voiceoflg (Post 870011)
Indeed he did.

Now, if Oregon had gone for two and fumbled at the two, and K-State did the same thing, running into the end zone and get stopped there, would it be a two point safety?

On a try in the NCAA, a TD is worth 2 points and a safety with worth 1 point, regardless of which team scores.

maven Fri Jan 04, 2013 12:07pm

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Originally Posted by Rich (Post 870015)
Sure looked like an illegal forward pass before the eventual end of the play. Didn't matter, of course.

I agree with both claims. If the crew hadn't all been thinking "HOLY #*@%!," they might have grabbed that. :)

Think the FBS crews will be prepping that one before next season? :D


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