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Old Mon Nov 26, 2012, 01:43pm
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The regulars are only marginally better than the replacements at SIGNIFICANTLY more cost....

This may be the first time in NFL history that, based on per game officials grading system, some replacement officials will work the Super Bowl because they graded out higher than the "regulars". No wonder why the NFL Officials Union DIDN'T want a reserve officials staff available to replace under-performing "regulars".
There's not a single replacement official that would make the Super Bowl if they were scrutinzed by the league like the regulars are (and Mike Peierra said as much). That's not to say that some of those mistakes aren't excusable (mainly the timing mistake). To say that they were just marginally better is just wrong in my opinion. I could clearly see the difference in just penalty enforcements...there's no way I should know the penalty enforcements that much better than those working a game.
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Old Mon Nov 26, 2012, 03:36pm
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Heck, I thought the game was more interesting with replacement players.
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Old Mon Nov 26, 2012, 03:44pm
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I could clearly see the difference in just penalty enforcements...there's no way I should know the penalty enforcements that much better than those working a game.
And because of that, it was the flow of the game where I noticed the biggest, most immediate difference. It seems the RR games could be counted on for at least 3 or 4 needless confusion-filled delays. The games now run MUCH smoother. There will never be NO mistakes, but I think one more week of RR's and I was going to stop watching.
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Old Mon Nov 26, 2012, 03:49pm
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The biggest problem I see now is they are officiating TO replay.

They still are making more money and working with players I'll never come close to seeing
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Old Tue Nov 27, 2012, 12:14am
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the biggest problem i see now is they are officiating to replay.

They still are making more money and working with players i'll never come close to seeing
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Old Mon Nov 26, 2012, 09:10pm
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And because of that, it was the flow of the game where I noticed the biggest, most immediate difference. It seems the RR games could be counted on for at least 3 or 4 needless confusion-filled delays. The games now run MUCH smoother. There will never be NO mistakes, but I think one more week of RR's and I was going to stop watching.
The replacements got a bad rap because everyone perceived that every call was wrong....remember the Broncos @ Falcons game early in the year? John Fox and the Bronco coaching staff were whining like babies even AFTER a replay review confirmed they had 12 on the field. They were STILL convinced the replacements were wrong....they would NEVER do that to the "regulars"....but now we know how bad the regulars have been this season!
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Old Tue Nov 27, 2012, 09:23am
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The replacements got a bad rap because everyone perceived that every call was wrong....remember the Broncos @ Falcons game early in the year? John Fox and the Bronco coaching staff were whining like babies even AFTER a replay review confirmed they had 12 on the field. They were STILL convinced the replacements were wrong....they would NEVER do that to the "regulars"....but now we know how bad the regulars have been this season!
True. And don't forget that "the worst call in the history of football" ... the horrid call that ended the lockout - that appalling thing at the GB vs Seattle game that challenged the integrity of the playoff chase this year... was actually called correctly.
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Old Tue Nov 27, 2012, 09:25am
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True. And don't forget that "the worst call in the history of football" ... the horrid call that ended the lockout - that appalling thing at the GB vs Seattle game that challenged the integrity of the playoff chase this year... was actually called correctly.
You can't possibly mean that the mechanics were sound, and that alone is a significant indictment.

You must mean that the outcome was correct, and I think you're in a relatively small minority in believing so.
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Old Tue Nov 27, 2012, 10:08am
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You can't possibly mean that the mechanics were sound, and that alone is a significant indictment.

You must mean that the outcome was correct, and I think you're in a relatively small minority in believing so.
Point taken on both. And no need to hijack the thread by rehashing or defending my position here.
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Old Tue Nov 27, 2012, 10:47am
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And no need to hijack the thread by rehashing or defending my position here.
That does not seem to constitute a hijack: the OP's point seems to be that the replacement officials were as good as those they replaced, and you're offering (what you take to be) evidence in favor of that point.
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Old Tue Nov 27, 2012, 09:47am
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True. And don't forget that "the worst call in the history of football" ... the horrid call that ended the lockout - that appalling thing at the GB vs Seattle game that challenged the integrity of the playoff chase this year... was actually called correctly.
From everything I've seen, the call was incorrect. And this play has come up a handful of times this season (obviously not in as big of a situation) and they correctly gave the ball to the play that controlled the ball first.
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