Clock Start Question

[maven]

Originally Posted by MD Longhorn

There was no kick. The accepted penalty wiped that out. Proceed just as you would on any other 4th down play where a penalty resulted in a first down.

Clock on the ready.

Sure there was a kick, and a team was awarded a new series thereafter. Clock on the snap. 3-4-3c

After an incomplete pass we start the clock on the snap too, even if there's an accepted DPI penalty. 3-4-3e

Different section of 3-4-3, but same thinking.

[Scuba_ref]

Thank you for the replies. For those who think the kick was wiped out I found the following case play:

3.4.3 SITUATION G: A1 throws an incomplete pass on third down. During the play, A3 holds. B accepts the penalty. RULING: After enforcement, the clock shall start on the snap. (3-4-3e).

The incomplete pass caused the clock to stop and dictates how the clock will start after enforcing the penalty. This case is very similar to the question I asked and validates (in my mind) the reposnses for starting on the snap.

EDIT: Oops, should have read Maven's response just before this, well at least I added the case play.

[CT1]

The reason for starting on the snap rather than the RFP following a new series after a legal kick is to allow the teams to get their new personnel on the field.

If they don't have to change personnel, start on the RFP.

[Rich]

Originally Posted by CT1

The reason for starting on the snap rather than the RFP following a new series after a legal kick is to allow the teams to get their new personnel on the field.

If they don't have to change personnel, start on the RFP.

I'm not sure what you mean by this. If either team has a new series following a legal kick play, we start on the snap. Period. The fact that there's a live ball penalty is irrelevant -- it doesn't wipe out the play.

[Adam]

Ok, this makes sense. Thanks.

[CT1]

Originally Posted by Rich

I'm not sure what you mean by this.

Me either. Maybe I had a flashback to the 1994(?) rationale for the FED rules change.