Coach going across the field

[parepat]

Originally Posted by WestCoaster

This is correct. The rules governing this situation are in 2-6-2. This coach is allowed on the field during a timeout. We see unauthorized conferences all the time, either a sideline conference that wanders outside the numbers or a between the nine conference where more than one coach comes out. We correct these situations with a warning, and if they comply and correct the error immediately, no flag is thrown. This situation is the same. He should be warned that he may not be past the hash mark on the opponents side of the field, and if he doesn't comply, he should be flagged for USC. The fact that no one stopped or warned him makes it a stretch for me to flag him in this situation.

I don't think that this is the point. The rule says that the coach is allowed between the hashes to "address his team" this is an exception to the prohibition of him being on the field. If it is a TO, and he is not addressing his team, he is outside the exception.

I'm sure some of you have had the situation where the coach calls a time out (not a ref/coach conference) and makes a beeline to the referee to complain. In that circumstance I tell him he can have a conference w me or his team, not both. He usually looks at me with a bewildered look, swears under his breath and storms off.

[WestCoaster]

Originally Posted by parepat

I don't think that this is the point. The rule says that the coach is allowed between the hashes to "address his team" this is an exception to the prohibition of him being on the field. If it is a TO, and he is not addressing his team, he is outside the exception.

I'm sure some of you have had the situation where the coach calls a time out (not a ref/coach conference) and makes a beeline to the referee to complain. In that circumstance I tell him he can have a conference w me or his team, not both. He usually looks at me with a bewildered look, swears under his breath and storms off.

I'm not sure what point you think I was trying to make, but I think we probably agree more than you would guess. I'm merely saying that during timeouts, coaches and conferences frequently go outside the exception, and we correct it without flags. In this instance, the crew could have corrected this before the coach ever got close to the other sideline. Since the coach was not stopped or warned, they missed an opportunity to correct this situation without even considering a flag. Any flag for USC after the fact is partly on the crew, IMO.

[parepat]

Originally Posted by WestCoaster

I'm not sure what point you think I was trying to make, but I think we probably agree more than you would guess. I'm merely saying that during timeouts, coaches and conferences frequently go outside the exception, and we correct it without flags. In this instance, the crew could have corrected this before the coach ever got close to the other sideline. Since the coach was not stopped or warned, they missed an opportunity to correct this situation without even considering a flag. Any flag for USC after the fact is partly on the crew, IMO.

You are right, we are mostly in agreement. My only point of disagreement was that the coach is not addressing his team. Thus, it wouldn t matter if he was screaming at the other coach from the middle of the field. If he's not addressing his team, he has no reason to be out there.

[WestCoaster]

Originally Posted by parepat

You are right, we are mostly in agreement. My only point of disagreement was that the coach is not addressing his team. Thus, it wouldn t matter if he was screaming at the other coach from the middle of the field. If he's not addressing his team, he has no reason to be out there.

I agree with this as well. If he were to start yelling at the other sideline, I'd still warn him to stop or leave the field. If he didn't comply, I'd flag him.

[Robert Goodman]

What if the peanut vendor is on the other side of the field, and the coach wants peanuts?

[WestCoaster]

Originally Posted by Robert Goodman

What if the peanut vendor is on the other side of the field, and the coach wants peanuts?

He needs to send the trainer, photographer, statistician, or one of the dozen other people who want to be in the restricted zone, but can't be.

[bigjohn]

SECTION 8 NONCONTACT UNSPORTSMANLIKE CONDUCT BY NONPLAYERS
ART. 1 . . . No coach, substitute, athletic trainer or other team attendant shall
act in an unsportsmanlike manner once the game officials assume authority for
the contest. Examples are, but not limited to:

[Robert Goodman]

Originally Posted by WestCoaster

He needs to send the trainer, photographer, statistician, or one of the dozen other people who want to be in the restricted zone, but can't be.

That's the difference in our assumptions. Football is played under all sorts of different conditions. I'm used to ones where there may be a dozen other people hanging around, but they don't realize a football game is going on nearby, and the peanut vendor is there to service the people playing Frisbee on the next field.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by Robert Goodman

What if the peanut vendor is on the other side of the field, and the coach wants peanuts?

You are just being a contrarian if you really think this is a serious question.

Peace

[Welpe]

Originally Posted by Robert Goodman

What if the peanut vendor is on the other side of the field, and the coach wants peanuts?

Not an issue here. Coaches are worried about winning to keep their jobs, not eating peanuts during the game.

[MD Longhorn]

Why does this thread keep getting bumped with inanities. Let it die.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by Welpe

Not an issue here. Coaches are worried about winning to keep their jobs, not eating peanuts during the game.

And he should send the ball boy anyway. God knows I can't find him.