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[tow]

Forward progress is into end zone,td.

[BktBallRef]

Originally Posted by tow

Forward progress is into end zone,td.

...which means that if A84 is carried OOB and judged that he would have landed inbounds, it's still a catch and a TD. But you better whistle the play dead before he lands OOB to signal that forward progress was stopped.

[tomes1978]

Originally Posted by BktBallRef

...which means that if A84 is carried OOB and judged that he would have landed inbounds, it's still a catch and a TD. But you better whistle the play dead before he lands OOB to signal that forward progress was stopped.

I disagree, the new rules states that the official no longer has to judge if the receiver was going to land in bounds or not. If he is pushed and lands OOB it is an incomplete catch.

[mbyron]

7.5.4i

[mbyron]

Originally Posted by mbyron

7.5.4i

Sorry, that should have been 7.5.4G, a new case play for 2012.

Originally Posted by 2012 NFHS Football Case Book

*7.5.4 SITUATION G: A8, in B’s end zone, leaps in the air to catch a pass and is contacted by B2 forcing A8 to come down inbounds on B’s 1-yard line where he is downed.

RULING: Touchdown, since A8’s forward progress was stopped over B’s end zone by B2’s contact. Even though the catch was not made until A8 came down inbounds, his forward progress was stopped by B2’s contact resulting in A *possessing the live ball in its opponent’s end zone, hence, a touchdown.

[HLin NC]

TD

Unless, apparently, you are in Ohio or Alabama.

[mbyron]

Originally Posted by HLin NC

TD

Unless, apparently, you are in Ohio or Alabama.

C'mon, man, keep up! Ohio is on board with all the new case plays now!

Edited to add:

[bisonlj]

Originally Posted by tomes1978

I disagree, the new rules states that the official no longer has to judge if the receiver was going to land in bounds or not. If he is pushed and lands OOB it is an incomplete catch.

You are correct if using the term "pushed" out. The new rule still allows for some a catch if someone is "carried" out. This is similar to the college rule. The philosophy however is the defender had better grab the player, throw him over his shoulder, take several steps, and then dump the receiver out of bounds in order to get the benefit of forward progress. In other words it is extremely unlikely to happen and it had better be huge and obvious if you are going to call it.

[BktBallRef]

Originally Posted by tomes1978

I disagree, the new rules states that the official no longer has to judge if the receiver was going to land in bounds or not. If he is pushed and lands OOB it is an incomplete catch.

I'm afraid you're mistaken. Forward progress is a different animal. Read 7.5.4G.

[mbyron]

Originally Posted by BktBallRef

I'm afraid you're mistaken. Forward progress is a different animal. Read 7.5.4G.

And 4.3.3B, both new case plays for 2012 that reflect the new rule and philosophy.

[bkdow]

If he is driven out of the end zone back into the field of play, Touchdown. If he were driven out of bounds, then incomplete pass.

As mentioned, the exception is if the defender catches him, throws him on his back, and luggs him out of bounds like Santa Claus.