This happened at least 5 times in OHSAA Finals!

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by bigjohn

QB rolls out to his own bench, gets out of the mythical tackle box, just before he is sacked he throws a pass 10 yeards over the head of (or directly at the ground in front of) A88 who is covered. The OC yells out "good job #14, that is how you avoid a sack!"


LJ hears all of this and see it as well, should he throw a flag?

So if he is in the pocket and he throws a bad pass in the direction of the receiver, should that be IG too?

And what does any of that mean? That does not mean it is a penalty. There is nothing in the rule that says we consider other comments. There is a way to avoid a sack even by rule and not be called for a penalty, just like there is a way to hold without being called for holding.

Peace

[bigjohn]

It means he was coached to do it and is doing it on purpose, and no I don't think it has anything to do with being in the pocket or not, I just think some guys coach what they see on Saturday. JMHO

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by bigjohn

It means he was coached to do it and is doing it on purpose, and no I don't think it has anything to do with being in the pocket or not, I just think some guys coach what they see on Saturday. JMHO

And your point is what? Many HS routes are basic and even when they try to throw the ball to a receiver, they do a bad job. And many QBs do not have the ability to throw the ball well out of the pocket. Again, it was not called for a reason and unless you can show some video we are going in circles. The problem is you are giving your opinion on something you have never done.

Peace

[bigjohn]

The reason it was not called is that most trainers say not to call it if there is a receiver in the area that the ball was thrown towards regardless of how uncatchable the ball is.
They get the uncatchable rule confused with IG which says that a ball thrown intentionally incomplete is an illegal pass!

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by bigjohn

The reason it was not called is that most trainers say not to call it if there is a receiver in the area that the ball was thrown towards regardless of how uncatchable the ball is.
They get the uncatchable rule confused with IG which says that a ball thrown intentionally incomplete is an illegal pass!

I doubt that. Then again how long have you been officiating again?

That is what I thought.

Peace

[Tom.OH]

John, did it "happen" in the D II game? If it did I will ask my assn. member who was an official in the game what he saw.

[bigjohn]

Tom, the kid from avon was 27-50 and I am pretty sure he threw a few in the seats or darn near to prevent a sack.

Justin O'Rourke 27-50-0int 325yds 3rush 32yds 0sacks

[MD Longhorn]

Originally Posted by bigjohn

QB rolls out to his own bench, gets out of the mythical tackle box, just before he is sacked he throws a pass 10 yeards over the head of (or directly at the ground in front of) A88 who is covered. The OC yells out "good job #14, that is how you avoid a sack!"


LJ hears all of this and see it as well, should he throw a flag?

It's getting harder and harder to take you seriously ... but I'll try. Surely you understand that a QB who is "just about to get sacked" is likely off-balance, on the run, going down, etc. Such a QB has more leeway, as it's much harder to throw accurately in those conditions.

[asdf]

Originally Posted by mbcrowder

It's getting harder and harder to take you seriously ... but I'll try. Surely you understand that a QB who is "just about to get sacked" is likely off-balance, on the run, going down, etc. Such a QB has more leeway, as it's much harder to throw accurately in those conditions.

Why in the hell would anyone take this narcissistic clown seriously?

His shtick is to get on message boards, and rip officials, period.

He's been publicly admonished on the boards by the administrators, yet nothing has changed. He boasts about the fact that he's not anonymous and actually thinks that not being so lends some credibility to his rants.

[MD Longhorn]

Originally Posted by bigjohn

The reason it was not called is that most trainers say not to call it if there is a receiver in the area that the ball was thrown towards regardless of how uncatchable the ball is.

Hmmm... I don't recall being told that by any trainer. Ever.

They get the uncatchable rule confused with IG which says that a ball thrown intentionally incomplete is an illegal pass!

They do? How do you know this? How can you assume or even guess someone is getting two rules confused? Especially having not ever been in their shoes? That's quite a leap, even for you. I promise you I've never had anyone confuse these two rules - which have nothing whatsoever to do with each other.

[MD Longhorn]

Originally Posted by asdf

Why in the hell would anyone take this narcissistic clown seriously?

His shtick is to get on message boards, and rip officials, period.

He's been publicly admonished on the boards by the administrators, yet nothing has changed. He boasts about the fact that he's not anonymous and actually thinks that not being so lends some credibility to his rants.

I thought his schtick was coming on message boards, mis-explaining a rule, and then complaining that no one goes by his misunderstandings. Or was that Robert G?

[bigjohn]

Yeah, I don't know what I am looking at or talking about but IG and HTR are never called especially in the state final games.

[bigjohn]

Here is an example of a training powerpoint. Notice no mention of just throwing the ball away, even if over the receiver's head.

http://www.doverpatriots.com/images/..._NFL-_NCAA.ppt

[JRutledge]

Ooooooooooo PowerPoint made from a place or organization that most of us have no association with. So what!!!!

Many here know the rule and many of us work both codes.

Peace

[bigjohn]

My point is this PPT was made like many using the same language many are using. Most offical think that if there is a receiver in the area it can never be IG. That is not what the rules or Case books say!