Unsportsmanlike Conduct

[tjones1]

I wasn't there; however, on paper this sounds like a good call.

I had a very similar play in a first round playoff game 3 years ago...bidness is bidness.

[MNBlue]

The coaches and players all know the rules. If they don't want to get penalized they shouldn't break the rules.

Same thing I tell my wife when she is speeding.

Nobody wants to throw that flag, but WE werent' the ones breaking the rules.

[bigjohn]

Pointing to the sky is illegal?

[CT1]

Originally Posted by bigjohn

Pointing to the sky is illegal?

Drawing attention to yourself is. Now, if he'd pointed to his teammates that blocked well enough for him to get to the EZ .............

Don't forget, BJ: Players can go to their sidelines & celebrate all they want -- back flips, handsprings, Icky shuffle, whatever.

[bigjohn]

The fact that he is out ahead of everyone and about to score has drawn attention to himself so maybe he should slow down and let the defense catch up to him! Everyone is looking at him anyways, a point in the air means little to anyone else and if anything draws attention to God, Budda or Allah. How is that USC

[jTheUmp]

Exactly.

If you don't want the official to throw the flag for UNS in this situation, don't put yourself in a position where the official has to make a decision about if an action is UNS or not.

I haven't looked at the film... I'll defer that judgement to the official that was there.

[InsideTheStripe]

Originally Posted by tjones1

I wasn't there; however, on paper this sounds like a good call.

May sound good, but does it look good?

Uns Conduct 2 - YouTube


First half other team (no flag):

Uns Conduct ? - YouTube

[bigjohn]

Wristcoach on belt? Is that legal?

[InsideTheStripe]

Originally Posted by bigjohn

Wristcoach on belt? Is that legal?

Not in a FED game, but this wasn't FED ball.

[bcl1127]

Originally Posted by bigjohn

Wristcoach on belt? Is that legal?

Not under the Federation Rules, but not sure about NCAA.

[bigjohn]

That is why I asked, not sure of the ncaa rule? Thanks.

[bcl1127]

Originally Posted by InsideTheStripe

May sound good, but does it look good?

Uns Conduct 2 - YouTube


First half other team (no flag):

Uns Conduct ? - YouTube

I think the difference between the two was where the action started and what the BJ could see. the one that was flagged the hand goes way up at the 7 yard line, no one could miss it. The one that was not flagged, the player raised his arm at the two and did not get it that high until just before the endzone, so maybe the BJ could not see it.

In my opinion, I would not flag this in HS under Federation rules. It seems like the NCAA bad a big deal about this exact type of thing, so maybe these officials are instructed to have zero tolerance of raising the hand before the goal line (I have no clue) but I think if you flag one, you better darn well be sure that you get all of them in the game.

If you are looking to why one was flagged and the other was not, maybe my original comments make some sense, maybe not. I doubt the official was "picking on" just one team.

[InsideTheStripe]

Originally Posted by bcl1127

I think the difference between the two was where the action started and what the BJ could see. the one that was flagged the hand goes way up at the 7 yard line, no one could miss it. The one that was not flagged, the player raised his arm at the two and did not get it that high until just before the endzone, so maybe the BJ could not see it.

In my opinion, I would not flag this in HS under Federation rules. It seems like the NCAA bad a big deal about this exact type of thing, so maybe these officials are instructed to have zero tolerance of raising the hand before the goal line (I have no clue) but I think if you flag one, you better darn well be sure that you get all of them in the game.

If you are looking to why one was flagged and the other was not, maybe my original comments make some sense, maybe not. I doubt the official was "picking on" just one team.

If you really want to parse both plays, they both ran for exactly 3 steps with their hand raised before they reached the endzone. I thought the one that wasn't flagged was the "worse" of the two as the runner looked back at a closing defender before he put his hand in the air. That said, I wouldn't have flagged either action.

[rockyroad]

Question from a Coach...on the second play, is the block by the motioning wingback a legal block under Texas (NCAA) rules? Under NF rules, it would not be a legal block?

[InsideTheStripe]

Originally Posted by rockyroad

Question from a Coach...on the second play, is the block by the motioning wingback a legal block under Texas (NCAA) rules? Under NF rules, it would not be a legal block?

It's not legal under either rule set. Under NCAA, that back is restricted to blocking below the waist toward his adjacent sideline. The block was towards the far sideline.