Learned something new last night.

[Jim S]

After thirty nine years of officiating football I found out that If a team has never had something called on them before (not sure how they checked the past history right there on the field... Database???)you shouldn't call it on them now... This came up when I called DPI on a D lineman who blocked the intended receiver (several yards down field) when the ball was in the air.

[Tom.OH]

Originally Posted by Jim S

After thirty nine years of officiating football I found out that If a team has never had something called on them before (not sure how they checked the past history right there on the field... Database???)you shouldn't call it on them now... This came up when I called DPI on a D lineman who blocked the intended receiver (several yards down field) when the ball was in the air.

Well they did not call it last week!

[PA-28-181]

How could you? Lineman can't be guilty of DPI!!!!!

Originally Posted by Jim S

After thirty nine years of officiating football I found out that If a team has never had something called on them before (not sure how they checked the past history right there on the field... Database???)you shouldn't call it on them now... This came up when I called DPI on a D lineman who blocked the intended receiver (several yards down field) when the ball was in the air.

[Jim S]

Originally Posted by PA-28-181

How could you? Lineman can't be guilty of DPI!!!!!

Hey coach, I haven't seen you since last night.

[JRutledge]

And coaches wonder why we do not like them.

Peace

[JugglingReferee]

Originally Posted by Jim S

After thirty nine years of officiating football I found out that If a team has never had something called on them before (not sure how they checked the past history right there on the field... Database???)you shouldn't call it on them now... This came up when I called DPI on a D lineman who blocked the intended receiver (several yards down field) when the ball was in the air.

With BlackBerrys, maybe they do have access to that database on the sidelines!

[Jim S]

Originally Posted by JugglingReferee

With BlackBerrys, maybe they do have access to that database on the sidelines!

OK, Here's my new rule submission for next year. Modify 1.6.1 It would also then prohibit the use of electronic equipemnt for the use of badgering an official!

[mbyron]

Originally Posted by Jim S

OK, Here's my new rule submission for next year. Modify 1.6.1 It would also then prohibit the use of electronic equipemnt for the use of badgering an official!

Like.

[Reffing Rev.]

I would say move all the coaches to the pressbox, but 2 weeks ago my L flagged the coach in the pressbox.

[Jim S]

Originally Posted by Reffing Rev.

I would say move all the coaches to the pressbox, but 2 weeks ago my L flagged the coach in the pressbox.

Oh, you can't let that go without the rest of the story.

[jTheUmp]

Last night I learned two things:
1) a cornerback can never be guilty of blocking below the waist.
2) it's legal to have two forward passes during a down as long as the first one takes place fully behind the line of scrimmage.

Who knew?

[BuckeyeRef]

Originally Posted by Reffing Rev.

I would say move all the coaches to the pressbox, but 2 weeks ago my L flagged the coach in the pressbox.

I agree with Jim S on this one. We need the rest of the story.

[bcl1127]

Originally Posted by buckeyeref

i agree with jim s on this one. We need the rest of the story.

+1

[PA-28-181]

Originally Posted by Reffing Rev.

I would say move all the coaches to the pressbox, but 2 weeks ago my L flagged the coach in the pressbox.

AFTER A STATEMENT LIKE THAT, YOU CAN NOT LET IT GO!!!!! FOR THE GOOD OF ALL YOU HAVE TO TELL (insert Paul Harvey here) "THE REST OF THE STORY!!!!!!!"

[Reffing Rev.]

Originally Posted by Jim S

Oh, you can't let that go without the rest of the story.

Sorry guys I've been off-line for a week.

Well it was 2 of the top 5 8-man teams in the state, both undefeated, it was a big game, local tv's game of the week. Visiting team had a touchdown called back for a hold on their 2nd snap of the game. They immediately thought we were there to make sure they didn't leave undefeated. After exchanging punts a couple more times, the home team put together a drive and went ahead 8-0. Visitors driving and the QB rolls left towards home bench, I'm R and trailing towars the sideline, B79 puts his shoulder in him and drives him out of bounds, they are tangled up and it looks to me like B79 is holding up the QB as they slow their momentum. Well QB didn't think so, he decides to head slap the defender, 8 ft out of bounds. My flag is out instantly. I turn around to find my BJ and U restraining the V coach who has crossed the crown of the field to argue the play. Of course my U has tossed a flag at this point, so when we get the coach back to his sideline and I talk to him, he is livid over the play and his assistants are worse. The 30 penalty yards makes things worse. One assistant said to the head coach as I headed back out to get the game restarted, "Why are we even here, 8 on 13 is tough odds."

Well it got uglier.

4th quarter, score H-40 V-6. Flag count at this point is H-10 flags (mostly false starts and a couple of holds) and V-7 flags (the 2 aforementioned, another late hit near half-time, and several holds) Home team punts and it rolls dead at the 6 inch line. Visiting team is driving and moving the ball with a no huddle offense. QB standing in a shotgun formation sends a WR in motion with the traditional foot raise, then while the WR is in motion, moves up under center, takes the snap and throws for a first down near the 10. My flag is out there for the illegal shift. They call a timeout. Head coach is in the huddle on the sideline about 10 yards behind the LOS, and he is well-behaved. Near the end of the timeout when I point over to the linesman to give his team the 15 second warning I see his flag going in the air. I walked over and he told me he's got a USC on the coach in the crows nest. (The visitors sideline has a scaffolding 30 feet outside the sideline about 30 feet in the air where the visiting coaches on the headsets can go.) Apparently the coach in the tower said a 'magic' word and everyone on the sideline, including the linesman heard it.

When I explained to the HC what the penalty was for, he tried to say the coach was communicating with the the other coaching staff. I told him, "If my linesman could hear it then he wasn't talking into the headsets."