4th and 5+/-inches then Def. Encroachment

[JugglingReferee]

Originally Posted by kdf5

I guess you're right. I only see all NFL and NCAA crews doing it. What do they know?

Originally Posted by AllPurposeGamer

I believe that's only for the beginning of drives...

APG is correct. The NFL definitely does not do this on scrimmage plays. There is much evidence that they do it on kicking plays with changes of possession.

[Welpe]

Originally Posted by JugglingReferee

APG is correct. The NFL definitely does not do this on scrimmage plays. There is much evidence that they do it on kicking plays with changes of possession.

So the NFL umpires that have said to do it whenever possible on the start of a new series were....making things up? Smoking crack? All of the above?

[JugglingReferee]

Originally Posted by Welpe

So the NFL umpires that have said to do it whenever possible on the start of a new series were....making things up? Smoking crack? All of the above?

I've seen many times where forward progress is marked where it is, without starting on an integral yard line.

[Hand Signals]

Our crew always starts on a yard line except for one turf field in the area that doesn't have hash marks. When the HL or LJ are marking progress on a long run that is way past the LTG they always stop on the closest tick. It all works out in the game and nobody seems to notice and it makes life easier for all.

[McMac]

Originally Posted by JugglingReferee

I've seen many times where forward progress is marked where it is, without starting on an integeryard line.

The math teacher in me had to correct this.

But I do agree with most of the conversation that working as an L, setting the chains on a yard line does make it a lot easier when working with the injured (read physically) JV/Varsity players who have no clue what they are doing. I have not watched close enough on NCAA/NFL games to see if this happens at those levels.

[JugglingReferee]

Thanks.