4th and 5+/-inches then Def. Encroachment

[MD Longhorn]

Originally Posted by kdf5

I guess you're right. I only see all NFL and NCAA crews doing it. What do they know?

LOL. OK, coach. (PS ... look again, both Saturday and Sunday ... are you really trying to tell us, in today's day and age of instant replay and inches, that NFL referees spot the ball on the lines when the play didn't end there? Frankly that's insane. Please... watch again).

[kdf5]

Originally Posted by mbcrowder

LOL. OK, coach. (PS ... look again, both Saturday and Sunday ... are you really trying to tell us, in today's day and age of instant replay and inches, that NFL referees spot the ball on the lines when the play didn't end there? Frankly that's insane. Please... watch again).

I don't know what you watch but I rarely see a crew NOT spot a ball off a yard line.

[MD Longhorn]

Originally Posted by kdf5

I don't know what you watch but I rarely see a crew NOT spot a ball off a yard line.

Watch again... with the exception of the very first play of a drive, you're wrong.

[RadioBlue]

Watch closer. You'll notice they do this at the start of every new series. Just last week, I saw a crew mark progress in a side zone 3/4ths of a football beyond the line-to-gain which was right on a marked hash. After signaling the first down, the ball was relayed to the umpire who then set the ball BACK to the hash which was the original line-to-gain and the chains were set there.

[jTheUmp]

Originally Posted by RadioBlue

Watch closer. You'll notice they do this at the start of every new series. Just last week, I saw a crew mark progress in a side zone 3/4ths of a football beyond the line-to-gain which was right on a marked hash. After signaling the first down, the ball was relayed to the umpire who then set the ball BACK to the hash which was the original line-to-gain and the chains were set there.

The advice I've heard from DI and NFL guys is to start a new series on a yard line "when possible". Of course, this means that there are times when it is not possible to do so, and part of the art is knowing when it's possible and when it's not possible.

But anyway, this thread has apparently become a series of "Yeah they do" vs "No they don't" posts... RadioBlue, can you find a video clip of a play similar to what you've just described and post it for us to see?

[RadioBlue]

Originally Posted by jTheUmp

The advice I've heard from DI and NFL guys is to start a new series on a yard line "when possible". Of course, this means that there are times when it is not possible to do so, and part of the art is knowing when it's possible and when it's not possible.

But anyway, this thread has apparently become a series of "Yeah they do" vs "No they don't" posts... RadioBlue, can you find a video clip of a play similar to what you've just described and post it for us to see?

I'd doubt it, but I'll give it a shot. I do remember it was somewhere between the -30 and midfield. In that situation, no one is going to care much about eight inches. (If only I could remember what game I was watching when I saw it.)