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[CT1]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

Usually most officials that are working that level are there because they are either not considered experienced enough to work other levels or they have to work them to get experience.

That may be true in your little corner of officiatingdom. But I think you've read enough posts to realize that MOST officials who work sub-varsity do it because they CHOOSE to, not because it's the only games they can get.

[Rich]

Originally Posted by CT1

That may be true in your little corner of officiatingdom. But I think you've read enough posts to realize that MOST officials who work sub-varsity do it because they CHOOSE to, not because it's the only games they can get.

I'm willing to bet he won't admit that.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by RichMSN

I'm willing to bet he won't admit that.

Unless any of us know the exact area in which the OPer lives or knows how or who gave him this particular game, all of us are talking from only personal experience and not the reality in which this person might live. Not everyone is assigned games under the same circumstances and even you Rich your willingness to work lower level games are not the same way others in my area for example are giving games even with the same willingness that you have. Depending on where you live or the conference there are not many games to give out and often those that are newer get those games with maybe one veteran. Here many lower level games are not assigned to 4 and 5 person crews. It is not unusual to get 2 officials on a lower level football game; this limits the veterans that are likely to get those games. One of my closest friends in as assignor and he struggles to get games to younger officials and is not going to ask veterans other than to help support first to work the majority of his games.

Peace

[GBFBUmp]

Originally Posted by CT1

That may be true in your little corner of officiatingdom. But I think you've read enough posts to realize that MOST officials who work sub-varsity do it because they CHOOSE to, not because it's the only games they can get.

CT1 you are correct. In our area there's a huge need for officials at all levels. By no means are the officials at the lower level for any other reason than there's a game scheduled. There have been sub-varsity games I've done where there are 4 Master level officials on the field, some with State Championship Game experience.

For the OP... it is hard, however you must find a way to communicate with the WH. It may not be pleasant, but if he's not supporting any of your calls, what harm will be done by discussing the situation with him between periods. Be professional, keep your cool, and ask (as others have stated) what he saw in your area that would make him overrule your call/non-call....

[Rich]

Originally Posted by GBFBUmp

CT1 you are correct. In our area there's a huge need for officials at all levels. By no means are the officials at the lower level for any other reason than there's a game scheduled. There have been sub-varsity games I've done where there are 4 Master level officials on the field, some with State Championship Game experience.

I take a full slate of sub-varsity games every season and my Friday night crew works them all. We are all Master level officials (of course, this isn't the hardest thing to maintain in Wisconsin). We love working football and the season's very short.

One thing we do for these games is to let people work out of their comfort zone. Two of my guys have committed to referee more games next season. I work umpire as much as I can. Our back judge works wings and white hats quite a bit (he's my backup white hat in case I have to miss a game). We work on a lot of things on Thursday nights and situations come up Thursdays that make us better on Fridays.

I won't blast anyone for not working games, but at the high school level I think most of us need as many snaps as we can get to stay on top of our game.

[GBFBUmp]

Originally Posted by RichMSN

I take a full slate of sub-varsity games every season and my Friday night crew works them all. We are all Master level officials (of course, this isn't the hardest thing to maintain in Wisconsin). We love working football and the season's very short.

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Rich, you are right on both counts. I used to do a ton of lower level games, and would work varied positions. Scheduling (oldest is in Frosh football now) makes it hard for me to do sub-varsity games, or I'd be doing them.

It benefited me immensely to do the lower level games. I am typically ump on our crew, however, if we have a sub, I am able to step into any position and provide a quality game to the teams because of my lower level refresher games at each position.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by CT1

That may be true in your little corner of officiatingdom. But I think you've read enough posts to realize that MOST officials who work sub-varsity do it because they CHOOSE to, not because it's the only games they can get.

I have realize that totally, but as I said before, "There is a reason you are working that level." Most of those that I come in contact with that are veterans are not doing it out of the pure kindness of their heart and might be the contributing factor as to why this guy picked up every flag and dismissed every actions of a younger officials. And many that I know also do it for the money and no other reason, like Pee Wee football.

You cannot have it both ways.

Peace