Carry over penalty??

[Forksref]

Why is this an illegal kick?

[wyo-referee]

I ruled it wasn't a carry-over penalty but a couple guys on the crew thought i got it wrong.
FORKSREF--I ruled it an illegal kick because a punt is a ball that is dropped and kicked BEFORE it hits the ground and for it to be a place-kick, which is a ball sitting on the ground it must be controlled or on a tee. This play doesn't meet either of those requirements.

[Rich]

Accepted or declined, the play is a safety since the illegal kick was in the end zone. That's the only penalty here. Think of it the same as a hold in the end zone by A.

[Forksref]

Originally Posted by wyo-referee

I ruled it wasn't a carry-over penalty but a couple guys on the crew thought i got it wrong.
FORKSREF--I ruled it an illegal kick because a punt is a ball that is dropped and kicked BEFORE it hits the ground and for it to be a place-kick, which is a ball sitting on the ground it must be controlled or on a tee. This play doesn't meet either of those requirements.

Sorry, I couldn't tell from the original post that the ball was on the ground when it was kicked.

[Welpe]

Any time an accepted penalty results in a safety, that is the end of the enforcement. There is no yardage mark off along with the safety.

[MD Longhorn]

Think of it this way... what is the result of the play? Ball out of K's EZ is a safety. OK... what is the result of the penalty? Penalty in the EZ - safety. The safety IS the penalty enforcement. (If this is confusing... say the illegal kick went forward and OOB at the 5 - result of the play is the ball at the 5, result of the penalty enforcement - safety)

In your case, you simply have a safety regardless of acceptance of the penalty or not. Additional yardage wouldn't make sense. (Consider this like a hold in the EZ - ruling is a safety... not a safety plus some yards on the freekick, right?)