Proper spot and down?

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by Robert Goodman

Simple: that when the front of a player's frame falls on the ball away from anybody else, you call it dead and in his possession at that point. It'll give you a clearer ruling and require less distortion of the game than what you'd get in almost all cases of requiring something more. Once in a great while the ball will squirt far out and result in uncontested possession somewhere else, but usually you'll just wind up playing another game with rules like that of oncelost77, or anything else that isn't strictly football.

Again you are missing the point. Often the ball is not still or clearly in any form of possession. The ball pops out all the time in those situations and you want us to stop the play just to satisfy some silly point of view that has no rules basis. Sorry, not going to happen because you want it to.

Peace

[Robert Goodman]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

Again you are missing the point. Often the ball is not still or clearly in any form of possession.

And apparently you want to keep it that way!

The ball pops out all the time in those situations and you want us to stop the play just to satisfy some silly point of view that has no rules basis.

But the way some of you want to play it when the near inevitable occurs (a pileup) -- the ball sort of alive, sort of dead -- has no rules basis either, and doesn't draw a clear line.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by Robert Goodman

And apparently you want to keep it that way!

But the way some of you want to play it when the near inevitable occurs (a pileup) -- the ball sort of alive, sort of dead -- has no rules basis either, and doesn't draw a clear line.

Actually it is not what I want; it is what it is and always has been. And if there is clear possession we rule accordingly before any pile up takes place. Clear possession is not going to stop a pile up in many situations; it just depends on where the ball was fumbled. Actually if you had officiated you probably would realize that the pile up is often a formality. Then again, just because you do not like something is not going to change the reality. I guess you will just have to be upset when the whistle is blown or when possession in your mind is ruled.

Peace