Enforcement puzzle

[jdmara]

I'm a new football official so be easy on me

I am going to re-hash the OP with arbitrary yardlines to keep everything straight in my mind.

A’s, 2 and 10 from B’s 20. Team A snaps the ball with 6 men on the line. During the run, A1 fumbles. B1 recovers the ball and starts running. During B1's run, B2 commits an illegal block in the back (spot foul at A’s 35). Near A’s goal line, B1 fumbles the ball, which bounces into and then out of the back of A’s end zone.

1.) B’s was the last to possess the ball before it when into A’s goal and subsequently OOB. No other force caused the ball into the endzone and OOB therefore it is a touchback. Team A will have possession of the ball after the touchback (if there were no penalties).

2.) Since Team A would put the ball in play next, they must decide on their penalty first (IBB).

a. If Team A accepts IBB

i. and Team B accepts the IF, it would be a double foul and the down would be replayed (A’s ball, 2nd and 10 from B’s 20)

ii. and Team B declines the IF, it would be Team B’s ball 10 yards from the spot of the IBB (B’s ball, 1st and 10 at A’s 45)

b. If Team A declines the IBB

i. and Team B accepts the IF, it would be Team A's ball 5 yards from the previous spot and replay the down (A's ball, 2nd and 15 from B's 25)

ii. and Team B declines the IF, it would be a touchback (A’s ball, 1st and 10 from A’s 20)

Ok, now murder my thinking… In basketball, I would have called a travel before the crash and no foul

[MD Longhorn]

Sounds like we're all in violent agreement.

[jdmara]

Originally Posted by mbcrowder

Sounds like we're all in violent agreement.

I guess my question is, who decides their part of the penalty enforcement first? Isn't it Team A since they would have the ball as result of the play (minus the penalties)?

-Josh

[KS_Blue]

You go in the order of how they happened. Start with B's captain for the IF penalty, then go to A's captain for the BIB penalty.

[RadioBlue]

Originally Posted by KS_Blue

You go in the order of how they happened. Start with B's captain for the IF penalty, then go to A's captain for the BIB penalty.

You're right, but for the wrong reasons. The team last in possession gets the first choice. Since "B" had team possession when the ball became dead, they get the first choice. (10-2-2)

[KS_Blue]

My bad. For some reason I was linking this to the enforcement of dead ball fouls. Probably don't want to do that...

[wisref2]

I also have to change my mind on changing my mind. If B's BIB ends up being accepted, the enforcement spot is the 20, not the spot of the foul. Basic spot for enforcement after a touchback is the 20. It's a defensive foul (since A has the ball now), so enforcement is from the basic spot.

I pledge to not change my mind again, but I reserve the right to rescind this change of mind.

SO WHAT'S THE CORRECT ANSWER, ALREADY!!!!!!!!!!