Mechanics stopping clock & encroachment signal

[BuckeyeRef]

In Ohio we've been instructed that all signals are to be given 2 times. No more, No less.

[mbyron]

Originally Posted by BuckeyeRef

In Ohio we've been instructed that all signals are to be given 2 times. No more, No less.

That's a little too strong. For example, if we're killing the clock (2X) and it doesn't stop, we keep signalling.

But yes, the general rule is to execute most signals 2X.

[Rich]

Originally Posted by BuckeyeRef

In Ohio we've been instructed that all signals are to be given 2 times. No more, No less.

That's nice -- and a level of micromanaging that I think is unnecessary, IMO.

[InsideTheStripe]

Originally Posted by BuckeyeRef

In Ohio we've been instructed that all signals are to be given 2 times. No more, No less.

What do you do when a coach is screaming at you that the ECO doesn't stop the clock after your two (and only two) signals and you look up to see it still running? Do you shrug and say, "Sorry coach, I've already given my two signals. Nothing I can do about it."?

I should come to Ohio and catch a game. The level of prep officiating must be incredibly high to be overly concerned about such trivial matters.

[mbyron]

Originally Posted by RichMSN

That's nice -- and a level of micromanaging that I think is unnecessary, IMO.

The state is reacting to the incredible variety of mechanics (and often rules) that used to be enforced by different crews here. It was almost like NL umpires and their "signature strike zones" back in the day.

The pendulum is swinging toward absolute uniformity. It'll swing back.

[MD Longhorn]

Originally Posted by RichMSN

Once, twice, three times -- it doesn't really matter as long as the clock is properly stopped (or started). 8-10 times is too much.

We don't need to consult a manual for everything we do out on the field.

Yes he does... he's never been on the field.

[johnny1784]

Originally Posted by mbcrowder

Yes he does... he's never been on the field.

I have but apparently the only field you have been on is your field of dreams.

You’re a cocky game official who may have many years of officiating experience comparable to medical physicians' years of practicing voodoo.

[johnny1784]

Originally Posted by RichMSN

Once, twice, three times -- it doesn't really matter as long as the clock is properly stopped (or started). 8-10 times is too much.

We don't need to consult a manual for everything we do out on the field.

Encroachment is encroachment, whether the foul is on the offense or defense. It's the hands on hips signal and it can be used against either team.

Why not?

[HLin NC]

You’re a cocky game official who may have many years of officiating experience comparable to medical physicians' years of practicing voodoo.

After going back and scanning some of your basic level posted questions, it appears you are either a perpetual first year official or a permanent troll.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by RichMSN

Once, twice, three times -- it doesn't really matter as long as the clock is properly stopped (or started). 8-10 times is too much.

I agree completely if the clock operator is paying attention and properly stops the clock in a reasonable time. If they do not, it might take that many times to get their attention.

Peace

[Rich]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

I agree completely if the clock operator is paying attention and properly stops the clock in a reasonable time. If they do not, it might take that many times to get their attention.

Peace

If they don't stop it in two swipes, I'm probably putting time back on the clock, so at that point, it doesn't matter.

Likewise on two winds for starting the clock -- if they don't start it properly, I'm going to reset everything and make sure it starts properly.

[JRutledge]

The problem with putting time back on the clock is that they have to first stop the clock. Then again I have had some really bad clock operators recently where they clearly do not pay attention. Otherwise I agree more than 2 or 3 times with any signal is not needed. But I understand if you do more with the stop and start clock signals when the clock operator is out to lunch.

Peace

[parepat]

Originally Posted by RichMSN

That's nice -- and a level of micromanaging that I think is unnecessary, IMO.

Welcome to my world!

[mbyron]

Originally Posted by parepat

Welcome to my world!

parepat: I was working peewees this weekend and invented the next signal for adoption in Ohio. It's similar to the "double stakes" signal of wagging the index fingers back and forth.

The difference is that it applies when the line to gain is less than 10 yards away, so we have just "one stake" to go. So I was just wagging one finger...

Look for it in next year's "gold book."

[parepat]

1. I think if you "wag" it only twice you are ok.

2. Which finger?