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Old Thu Sep 15, 2011, 10:57pm
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I actually used the same example you did about the 1"x4" that didn't violate height. It seems common sense to me that that wouldn't be allowed, but as you mentioned, only the height is referenced specifically in the manual, so I'm not sure what I'd say to the coach who tried to use it.

What about this stipulation earlier in the manual, could it be applied?
Field Areas
ARTICLE 9. a. No material or device shall be used to improve or degrade the
playing surface or other conditions and give one player or team an advantage
(Exceptions: Rules 2-16-4-b and c).

OR

Illegal Equipment
ARTICLE 7. Illegal equipment includes the following (See Appendix E for
additional details):
f. Any equipment that could provide an unfair advantage to any player.
It's not degrading the surface. That would be if he brought a device out there to dig some of the grass off the field. If he brings out a garden tool tool to "fix" the field to place his "1x4" on then we have issues.

The equipment rule is not there either. He's not gaining any unfair advantage. That would be more like using a tub of lard on his jersey or putting stickem on his gloves. Nothing to do with a kicking tee.

We have bigger fish to fry than worrying about the width of a tee.
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Old Sat Sep 17, 2011, 05:08pm
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We have bigger fish to fry than worrying about the width of a tee.
I'm with you on that one. The last thing I wanted to be talking about in the 4th quarter of a tight game. I think if I had been the white hat I would have told him to buzz off. But - it did get me thinking. Appreciate all the replies here.
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Old Sat Sep 17, 2011, 07:00pm
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This actually isn't an illegal kick, but illegally kicking the ball. In the NCAA code, there is a difference. And the ball isn't dead (11 man; under 6 man exceptions the ball is dead IMMEDIATELY since Team A can not score) until the end of the play, not necessarily Team B possession, because it isn't a "kick" but rather, a fumble and loose ball because the holder lost possession of it. Its a 10 yard basic spot foul, but you would enforce from the previous spot. In this case, it would be half the distance.

As Jason said, the dimensions of the tee is irrelevant. Unless the officials perceive the device as being dangerous, and it isn't over 2" (Texas UIL; NCAA by rule its prohibited except on kickoff), we're OK.

I have actually seen this -- in an 11 man jr. high game about 4 years ago. Defensive lineman broke through and got to the held ball before the kicker did and kicked it.
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