rule ?

[BktBallRef]

Originally Posted by big jake

If receiver ai controls the ball in b's endzone but prior to touching the ground a1 brushes the uprights, Is it a td or not

No, it's not a TD. A1 is OOB when he touches the goalpost. (I've never seena receiver brush the uprights.)

[ODJ]

It's a TD if A1 is not touching the uprights at the moment he touches the ball.

It's a touchdown. It's also Illegal Participation (unless the exceptions noted in previous posts.)

How do you penalize this?

[mbyron]

Originally Posted by ODJ

It's a TD if A1 is not touching the uprights at the moment he touches the ball.

It's a touchdown. It's also Illegal Participation (unless the exceptions noted in previous posts.)

How do you penalize this?

It cannot be both a TD and IP.

Your first claim is not correct: he must catch the ball before going out of bounds, not merely touch it.

It's not IP to carry a live ball out of bounds, so you wouldn't have IP on this play either. If he bumped into the upright first (without being blocked out of bounds) and then came into the endzone to make the catch, that might constitute IP.

IP is a 15 yard penalty enforced from the basic spot under all-but-one. The basic spot on a loose ball play is the previous spot.

[ODJ]

If the penalty is declined, it's a TD.

[MD Longhorn]

Originally Posted by ODJ

If the penalty is declined, it's a TD.

Please stop helping... you're wrong. Twice.

[BktBallRef]

Originally Posted by ODJ

If the penalty is declined, it's a TD.

Dude, when he touches the goal post before he touches the ground, he is OOB and the play is over. There is no penalty.

[BigBaldGuy]

Originally Posted by BktBallRef

No, it's not a TD. A1 is OOB when he touches the goalpost. (I've never seena receiver brush the uprights.)

This has more of a chance happening in a lower level game where you have more uprights on the endline.

[BktBallRef]

Originally Posted by BigBaldGuy

This has more of a chance happening in a lower level game where you have more uprights on the endline.

I have no idea what that means.

[MD Longhorn]

Originally Posted by BktBallRef

I have no idea what that means.

Poorly worded, but I think he means that you are more likely to have goalposts right on the end line (most likely one of those H-shaped dual purpose soccer-goal/football-goalpost things) on lower level games (like JH or youth) than at big-boy ball where they have a dedicated football field with proper goalposts.