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big jake Sun Aug 21, 2011 02:55pm

rule ?
 
If receiver ai controls the ball in b's endzone but prior to touching the ground a1 brushes the uprights, Is it a td or not

JRutledge Sun Aug 21, 2011 03:02pm

To complete a catch the player must come down in-bounds or be pushed out of bounds and would have landed if not for the contact with an opponent. Touching the upright would be considered out of bounds, so that would not make it a legal catch. No different than hitting a pylon before touching in-bounds.

Peace

big jake Sun Aug 21, 2011 03:21pm

In high school if a receiver is pushed out and would have landed in. would that make it a legal catch or not a legal catch???

JRutledge Sun Aug 21, 2011 03:38pm

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Originally Posted by big jake (Post 782698)
In high school if a receiver is pushed out and would have landed in. would that make it a legal catch or not a legal catch???

Did you read the first sentence in my response?

This is a legal catch if the officials judges those two things took place.

Peace

bisonlj Mon Aug 22, 2011 01:40pm

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Originally Posted by JRutledge (Post 782703)
Did you read the first sentence in my response?

This is a legal catch if the officials judges those two things took place.

Peace

Unless he was pushed in the direction he was already going. This is clarified in the case book. See 7.5.2 Situation K scenario c.

JugglingReferee Mon Aug 22, 2011 02:29pm

Canadian Ruling
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by big jake (Post 782685)
If receiver ai controls the ball in b's endzone but prior to touching the ground a1 brushes the uprights, Is it a td or not

CANADIAN RULING:

TD. Our uprights are in the EZ or on the GL. :)

cmathews Tue Aug 23, 2011 11:26am

wow
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by big jake (Post 782685)
If receiver ai controls the ball in b's endzone but prior to touching the ground a1 brushes the uprights, Is it a td or not

If this ever happens I want to see the video......

HLin NC Tue Aug 23, 2011 02:33pm

This one comes off the Fed test. I commented that he should quit football and join the basketball team.

BktBallRef Tue Aug 23, 2011 04:18pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by big jake (Post 782685)
If receiver ai controls the ball in b's endzone but prior to touching the ground a1 brushes the uprights, Is it a td or not

No, it's not a TD. A1 is OOB when he touches the goalpost. (I've never seena receiver brush the uprights.)

ODJ Tue Aug 23, 2011 09:42pm

It's a TD if A1 is not touching the uprights at the moment he touches the ball.

It's a touchdown. It's also Illegal Participation (unless the exceptions noted in previous posts.)

How do you penalize this?

mbyron Wed Aug 24, 2011 07:47am

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Originally Posted by ODJ (Post 783302)
It's a TD if A1 is not touching the uprights at the moment he touches the ball.

It's a touchdown. It's also Illegal Participation (unless the exceptions noted in previous posts.)

How do you penalize this?

It cannot be both a TD and IP.

Your first claim is not correct: he must catch the ball before going out of bounds, not merely touch it.

It's not IP to carry a live ball out of bounds, so you wouldn't have IP on this play either. If he bumped into the upright first (without being blocked out of bounds) and then came into the endzone to make the catch, that might constitute IP.

IP is a 15 yard penalty enforced from the basic spot under all-but-one. The basic spot on a loose ball play is the previous spot.

ODJ Thu Aug 25, 2011 09:41am

If the penalty is declined, it's a TD.

BigBaldGuy Thu Aug 25, 2011 10:20am

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Originally Posted by BktBallRef (Post 783250)
No, it's not a TD. A1 is OOB when he touches the goalpost. (I've never seena receiver brush the uprights.)

This has more of a chance happening in a lower level game where you have more uprights on the endline.

MD Longhorn Thu Aug 25, 2011 04:17pm

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Originally Posted by ODJ (Post 783587)
If the penalty is declined, it's a TD.

Please stop helping... you're wrong. Twice.

BktBallRef Thu Aug 25, 2011 09:47pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigBaldGuy (Post 783593)
This has more of a chance happening in a lower level game where you have more uprights on the endline.

I have no idea what that means. :D


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