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Old Tue Sep 21, 2010, 02:55pm
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Penalty during a loose ball play that results in a TD

Here's the situation:

Team A is on their 2 yard line. The QB and RB fumble the handoff and the ball is loose in the endzone. While B76 tries to gain possession, he is held (and flagged) by A21. B76 ends up recovering the fumble in the endzone for a TD. And we offered B the opportunity to assess the penalty on the try or kick-off.

Was this correct? Or does B need to decline the penalty to get the TD?

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Old Tue Sep 21, 2010, 03:14pm
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I assume the hold is against A21. B needs to decline the penalty to keep the score. Rule 8-2-3 is the reference. The opponents of the scoring team did commit a foul and there was a change of possession, but the foul occurred prior to the change of possession.
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here's the situation:

Team a is on their 2 yard line. The qb and rb fumble the handoff and the ball is loose in the endzone. While b76 tries to gain possession, he is held (and flagged) by b21. B76 ends up recovering the fumble in the endzone for a td. And we offered b the opportunity to assess the penalty on the try or kick-off.

Was this correct? Or does b need to decline the penalty to get the td?

Thanks.
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Old Tue Sep 21, 2010, 03:15pm
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Here's the situation:

Team A is on their 2 yard line. The QB and RB fumble the handoff and the ball is loose in the endzone. While B76 tries to gain possession, he is held (and flagged) by B21. B76 ends up recovering the fumble in the endzone for a TD. And we offered B the opportunity to assess the penalty on the try or kick-off.

Was this correct? Or does B need to decline the penalty to get the TD?

Thanks.
Why is B21 holding B76? Why is B21 flagging B76? Why is B holding B a penalty?

Which ruleset?

I believe your answer is that the penalty must be declined.
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Here's the situation:

Team A is on their 2 yard line. The QB and RB fumble the handoff and the ball is loose in the endzone. While B76 tries to gain possession, he is held (and flagged) by A21. B76 ends up recovering the fumble in the endzone for a TD. And we offered B the opportunity to assess the penalty on the try or kick-off.

Was this correct? Or does B need to decline the penalty to get the TD?

Thanks.
CANADIAN RULING:

This is Loose Ball Interference and would be declined so that B keeps the touchdown.
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Old Tue Sep 21, 2010, 03:21pm
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CANADIAN RULING:

This is Loose Ball Interference and would be declined so that B keeps the touchdown.
OK, Canadian - I know you boys have an odd sense of humour... but SURELY you can come up with a better name for this penalty. This sounds exceedingly painful and completely inappropriate.
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Old Tue Sep 21, 2010, 03:33pm
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OK, Canadian - I know you boys have an odd sense of humour... but SURELY you can come up with a better name for this penalty. This sounds exceedingly painful and completely inappropriate.
So many ways to go with the phrase "Loose ball interference" aren't there?
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Old Tue Sep 21, 2010, 03:37pm
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Yes, A21. thank you for catching the mistake.
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OK, Canadian - I know you boys have an odd sense of humour... but SURELY you can come up with a better name for this penalty. This sounds exceedingly painful and completely inappropriate.
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So many ways to go with the phrase "Loose ball interference" aren't there?
And don't forget that our balls used to be bigger, but now they're the same size.


Funny Loose Ball Interference vid: YouTube - Quarter back spikes ball and it hits himself in the nuts
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And don't forget that our balls used to be bigger, but now they're the same size.


Funny Loose Ball Interference vid: YouTube - Quarter back spikes ball and it hits himself in the nuts
Must be the cold weather. As Constanza tells us... SHRINKAGE!!!!!
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