Punt Near Endzone

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by bisonlj

Thank you. I'll accept this as an admission that you agree the second and subsequent spots could also be spots of first touching and the only one that matters is the one that benefits R the most. That is the only one that truly needs a bean bag or some reference to location.

How is this any different from what I said at the beginning?

This is the quote of what I said.

The only key that matters is where the ball is "first touched" and where the ball becomes dead. The feet play no role in if the ball is considered in the EZ, only the ball matters. We have a rule called "first touching" and that is a spot where the kicking team first touches the ball. That spot might be used or the dead ball spot might be used, which is advantageous to the receiving team. The bottom line is we try to be on or near the goal line so we can determine where the ball goes in the EZ or not.

I am trying to figure out what else did I say that was different? Very first response to the question from the OPer (who still has not commented once in this thread).
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[Eastshire]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

How is this any different from what I said at the beginning?

This is the quote of what I said.



I am trying to figure out what else did I say that was different? Very first response to the question from the OPer (who still has not commented once in this thread).
Peace

Jeff, mbcrowder said

Originally Posted by mbcrowder

Like I said in the previous post, you could have simply said "every time K touches the ball in FED it's referred to as 'first touching'" ... but no ... you had to be you.

to which you replied

Originally Posted by JRutledge

No, because that is not how I understand the rule or how I enforce the rule or explain the rule. Never have and never will. There is a dead ball spot and a spot of first touching. Pick the one that works for the receiving team and move on. I have never heard it explained the way you did until this very thread.

Only now you say

Originally Posted by JRutledge

The furthest most spot for first touching is going to be used and I do not need to bag every single spot. And the vast majority of first touching spots are clearly identifiable.

Which I think most of us agree is not only correct (except maybe the bagging bit) but not what you said originally.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by Eastshire

Which I think most of us agree is not only correct (except maybe the bagging bit) but not what you said originally.

But I was told that the bagging bit was wrong too by several people. I simply used a rulebook term and was even criticized for doing that by someone because the OPer did not understand the term as they were not football official as well.

I even had two people PM me because they think I agree with them, but I did not use the language they wanted to hear to make them happy. Comical on so many levels.

This is why I cannot, will not or refuse to worry about what people here say because if I did I would be paralyzed with not commenting on anything. Please stop saying what everyone would do or say when you cannot even get right what we “disagreed” on. It does not work when I used to say it; it is not going to work now. I do what the people around me do and approve not what some people I will never work with or deal with in my officiating. Even the guy that is in Joliet (as if I would care).

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