NFL Rules.. No untimed down ???

[APG]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

As a matter of fact under the last two minutes there is a 10 second run off for any offensive penalty (not sure if that applies for a team leading too).

Not exactly true.

Rule 4, Section 7, Article 1
Actions To Conserve Time

A team is not permitted to conserve time inside of one minute of either half by committing any of the following acts:

(a) a foul by either team that prevents the snap (i.e., false start, encroachment, etc.)
(b) intentional grounding
(c) an illegal forward pass thrown from beyond the line of scrimmage
(d) throwing a backwards pass out of bounds
(e) spiking or throwing the ball in the field of play after a down as ended, except after a touchdown; or
(f) any other intentional foul that causes the clock to stop

Penalty: For illegally conserving time: loss of five yards unless a larger distance penalty is applicable.

[golfnref]

Originally Posted by AllPurposeGamer

Not exactly true.

Rule 4, Section 7, Article 1
Actions To Conserve Time

A team is not permitted to conserve time inside of one minute of either half by committing any of the following acts:

(a) a foul by either team that prevents the snap (i.e., false start, encroachment, etc.)
(b) intentional grounding
(c) an illegal forward pass thrown from beyond the line of scrimmage
(d) throwing a backwards pass out of bounds
(e) spiking or throwing the ball in the field of play after a down as ended, except after a touchdown; or
(f) any other intentional foul that causes the clock to stop

Penalty: For illegally conserving time: loss of five yards unless a larger distance penalty is applicable.

Timing has nothing to do with the ruling on this play. Under NFL rules, if the offense scores on the last play of a half but are guilty of a foul on the play, the score is disallowed and the half is over.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by golfnref

Timing has nothing to do with the ruling on this play. Under NFL rules, if the offense scores on the last play of a half but are guilty of a foul on the play, the score is disallowed and the half is over.

I would not say timing has nothing to do with this. If there was 25 seconds left in the game time would matter and the game would not be over.

Peace

[golfnref]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

I would not say timing has nothing to do with this. If there was 25 seconds left in the game time would matter and the game would not be over.

Peace

I said timing has nothing to do with the play in question. If you would look at the original post you will see the question dealt with a play which happened on the last timed down of the 4th quarter. This is what I was responding to.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by golfnref

I said timing has nothing to do with the play in question. If you would look at the original post you will see the question dealt with a play which happened on the last timed down of the 4th quarter. This is what I was responding to.

I understand what you are saying, but timing is always a factor and this is why the game ended on that play with an accepted penalty and was part of the explanation by the WH. Timing always plays a role in penalties and in this case it ended the game.

Peace

[APG]

Originally Posted by golfnref

Timing has nothing to do with the ruling on this play. Under NFL rules, if the offense scores on the last play of a half but are guilty of a foul on the play, the score is disallowed and the half is over.

I was only addressing the statement that all penalties by the offense under two minutes of either half results in a 10 second run off.

The pertinent NFL rule about fouls committed by the offense with the expiration of a period/half is Rule 4, Section 8, Article 2 (b).