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Old Mon Aug 23, 2010, 06:56am
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I cannot read the information that was linked as it makes me require a membership first.

I have always understood when you do these kinds of studies you have to first understand what you are studying. Many times when there are these studies about officiating, it seems clear that there is a complete lack of understanding of officiating. They are looking for some magic bullet to find bias in something that does not inherently have bias.

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Old Mon Aug 23, 2010, 07:00am
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I cannot read the information that was linked as it makes me require a membership first.

I have always understood when you do these kinds of studies you have to first understand what you are studying. Many times when there are these studies about officiating, it seems clear that there is a complete lack of understanding of officiating. They are looking for some magic bullet to find bias in something that does not inherently have bias.

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That's a definite danger, and like I said the thing that bothers me is they used students and not referees in the study (although they did require they pass a rules test). But it is instructive to know that humans in general have a directional bias. Do we, as officials have enough training and experience to overcome that bias? I think we'd all like to answer yes but it can be hard to tell for sure.
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Old Mon Aug 23, 2010, 07:04am
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That's a definite danger, and like I said the thing that bothers me is they used students and not referees in the study (although they did require they pass a rules test). But it is instructive to know that humans in general have a directional bias. Do we, as officials have enough training and experience to overcome that bias? I think we'd all like to answer yes but it can be hard to tell for sure.
Well that is worse. If you are using students and not people that do this on a regular basis, that cannot be a very good study if you are trying to show how this relates to officiating across the board.

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Old Mon Aug 23, 2010, 10:13pm
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I cannot read the information that was linked as it makes me require a membership first.
I recommend you register. Not enough officials participate there, and I think they'd appreciate more.
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Old Tue Aug 24, 2010, 12:07am
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I recommend you register. Not enough officials participate there, and I think they'd appreciate more.
I am already a member of a fan boy site in my state and every time we have a discussion about rules I wonder why I am a member. I doubt seriously that they would give a darn as the fans know everything. Even when you show them the line and verse in rules or mechanics. Not something I would recommend anyone do unless you like banging your head against a wall for fun to see it bleed.

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