What is the foul?

[bigjohn]

Here are the 2 situations that started all of this.

c) 2/10 from A's 20. At the last second before the ball is snapped A88 realizes he should be on the field and steps on the field just inside the sideline and catches a quick pass from the QB and runs down field and scores a TD.

Do we have a foul? If so what is the foul?
Where will the yardage be marched off from and how many yards?
What will be the next down and distance and from where?

D) 2/10 from A's 20. At the last second before the ball is snapped A88 realizes he should be on the field and steps on the field just inside the sideline and catches a quick pass from the QB and runs down field and gets tackled at B's 10 yl.

Do we have a foul? If so what is the foul?
Where will the yardage be marched off from and how many yards?
What will be the next down and distance and from where?

What I'm trying to get at here is where is the penalty enforced from and why during a running play, loose ball play and also for a player/coach that comes off the sideline or also a deceive play.
Any help with this would be greatly appreciated.

[asdf]

Originally Posted by bigjohn

I am a computer guy Welped! They are stored on a word doc on my flash drive!

Actually they are still on the NFHS server in my private message inbox!

Ah yes.... along with the Dear Hank files.......


Your claims hold as much water as any one of us claiming to have a portfolio of notes from your players expressing their doubts of your football knowledge.

Our claims would be much more believeable..........

[bigjohn]

Except there are officials reading these posts that know I tell the truth because they sent me those private messages.

I will not throw them under the bus!

[asdf]

Originally Posted by bigjohn

Except there are officials reading these posts that know I tell the truth because they sent me those private messages.

I will not throw them under the bus!

That's right, Mr. Integrity.

The only people you throw under the bus on the FED site are people you do not agree with, like the following.....

1) Your Head Coach, players, & parents who forced you to leave a player in the game even though you admitted to the board that the player was using a dangerous (for your player) blocking tactic. (The rules don't matter when it comes to protecting your QB)

2) A White Hat in one of your playoff games who you called a liar.

3) A crew from one of your games last year. You posted some video of plays you disagreed with from a game a couple of days prior. When called on it, you threatened to "take your helmet and cleats go home." That hissy fit lasted about two days.

Other than that, you are a top notch, classy, no nonsense kind of guy.

[bigjohn]

1, HAHA, I said he used his head and no one called it. It is true.

2, IW no one heard

3 film from a game with no comment just, you call it.

Sounds like you got a "Book" on me too though ASDF.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee

Oh, I'm well acquainted with bigjohn from the various NFHS forums, Snaqs. He's a serial troll. It's his mission in life. But ya gotta admit, he is one of the better ones. Look at how got everybody here going..and forgetting all about actual football officiating at the same time.

That's funny, I don't remember him on that side. I'm not surprised he was there, I can just see his arguments now without even checking.

Wait a second, this guy didn't develop his own new offensive scheme did he?

[kdf5]

Originally Posted by bigjohn

2, IW no one heard

[bigjohn]

In these two situations it is clear to me that this is what should called 100% of the time!

IP based on 9-6-4d
d. To use a player, replaced player, substitute, coach, trainer or other attendant
in a substitution or pretended substitution to deceive opponents at or
immediately before the snap or free kick.

[Welpe]

Absolutely. Just remove the penalties for illegal substitution from the book and call everything IP. Let's get rid of the illegal formation penalties and make them IP too. Then let's burn the casebooks in the middle of the field at half-time.

[bigjohn]

If no one is going to read it or call by it, Amen!

[Welpe]

I knew we'd find common ground! Now let me go finish rewriting "A Modest Proposal" of the football rules.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by Welpe

I knew we'd find common ground! Now let me go finish rewriting "A Modest Proposal" of the football rules.

I thought we'd stopped feeding it.

[Welpe]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

I thought we'd stopped feeding it.

Oh OK fine...I've had my fun.

Also, Mike L...don't hate Texas, just the cold weather we've been having. Houston is huge and we haven't even begun to explore it yet. There is plenty I miss about California though...SLO being one of them.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by Welpe

Oh OK fine...I've had my fun.

Also, Mike L...don't hate Texas, just the cold weather we've been having. Houston is huge and we haven't even begun to explore it yet. There is plenty I miss about California though...SLO being one of them.

I'm just messing with you. Gremlin's wouldn't have been half the movie it was if they hadn't fed the trolls.

[Welpe]

Oh no...I'm done, burned my rough drafts of my manuscript already.