Little Caesars Bowl: Marshall vs. Ohio

[TRef21]

I was reading the article and it said she is on the prospect list for the NFL. That would be cool to see her on a crew on Sunday's..

[Umpmazza]

I think that is pretty cool... But is it me or is she kind of cute?..

[Theisey]

I'm sure there are many, many really good male officials putting in their time at the D1aa, II and III levels waiting for their shot at the big time.
Hope this really isn't a gender thingee because "we gotta have one" at this level. Good luck to her, but.. ( just my opinion).

It was very hard to see mechanically just what the line judge was doing for two reasons... that spot is at the bottom of my screen and the TV broadcast has this dang three tiered overlay cutting off a significant portion of the screen.

Aside from not flagging a back for a false start, I did not care the the punching forward and punching back mechanic. Maybe this is a CUSA requirement.. but I know it's not really done that way by the majority.
The HL did not seem to do this.

Another mechanic I did not understand why the LJ was doing this, (when I could see it) was the moving away from the line on runs toward that sideline. At least three or four times I happen to see this, the LJ had moved at least four yards away from the line in to the backfield. Again, maybe that's a CUSA requirement, but there is a lot more space to cover on the play as speed by you. The risk of getting caught up by the "tail" defenders/blockers could result in a leg whip injury.

Otherwise, the job was completed as one would expect to be completed by bowl selected officials. To put it another way, if I were on a game with her, I'd not be worried about any problems that she couldn't handle.

[jaybird]

While some of you are being all gushy over her, I am of the opinion that there are plenty of qualified men to fill the football officiating ranks without having the novelty of using a woman on a crew. We can do just fine without her, thank you.

This may be considered a chauvinistic approach and there may be a multitude of opponents to this view, which is fine. It may not be popular, but it's my viewpoint and I'm sticking with it.

Let the bashing begin, if you're so inclined.

[umpirebob71]

Frankly, all I see is an official working at a level I someday hope to be.

[mbyron]

Originally Posted by jaybird

While some of you are being all gushy over her, I am of the opinion that there are plenty of qualified men to fill the football officiating ranks without having the novelty of using a woman on a crew. We can do just fine without her, thank you.

I hope you're aware that the same arguments were used to keep blacks and Latinos out of the officiating ranks for decades. "I am of the opinion that there are plenty of qualified white men to fill the officiating ranks without having the novelty of using minorities on the crew." Doesn't sound so harmless put like that, does it?

[Umpmazza]

Originally Posted by mbyron

I hope you're aware that the same arguments were used to keep blacks and Latinos out of the officiating ranks for decades. "I am of the opinion that there are plenty of qualified white men to fill the officiating ranks without having the novelty of using minorities on the crew." Doesn't sound so harmless put like that, does it?

Im not a black or Latino, but dang you have a really good point there.

[jaybird]

Originally Posted by mbyron

I hope you're aware that the same arguments were used to keep blacks and Latinos out of the officiating ranks for decades. "I am of the opinion that there are plenty of qualified white men to fill the officiating ranks without having the novelty of using minorities on the crew." Doesn't sound so harmless put like that, does it?

Taken out of content, a lot of words can be twisted into a different meaning. Stay on task here.

Race is not an issue. It was never implied, suggested nor contemplated and anyone shallow enough to drag that into the picture must have an underlying problem with the color of a person's skin. So please, stick with the topic at hand and give up the attempt to make it a racial issue.

[mbyron]

Originally Posted by jaybird

Taken out of content, a lot of words can be twisted into a different meaning. Stay on task here.

Race is not an issue. It was never implied, suggested nor contemplated and anyone shallow enough to drag that into the picture must have an underlying problem with the color of a person's skin. So please, stick with the topic at hand and give up the attempt to make it a racial issue.

The topic at hand is discrimination, given your baldly discriminatory remark. You seem to be unaware that your argument has been used before. And you know what they say about those who cannot remember the past.

[bossman72]

Originally Posted by Umpmazza

I think that is pretty cool... But is it me or is she kind of cute?..

I saw a picture of her without the hair tucked up in the cap and in regular clothes... MILF! haha

[jjrye22]

Ok Jaybird, I'll bite.
Nothing about male vs female, but are there REALLY enough qualified and motivated people out their willing to spend the time and effort to be high quality officials?
Seems to me there are questions and lists every year looking for ideas to recruit and retain officials, and a lot of states are scaling back how many they put on the field.

Personally, I don't think anyone should give her any extra attention (and she probably feels the same way). I expect everyone here feels the best game is the one where they are not noticed.

[Sonofanump]

Originally Posted by jjrye22

...but are there REALLY enough qualified and motivated people out their willing to spend the time and effort to be high quality officials?

I just want to make sure that we are talking about the same thing. This is NCAA. The competition to get into (D3, NAIA) is pretty tough. The competition to move up to where she is at (small D1) is insaine. This is her 9the year on the field total. Not too many officials are working D1 bowl games by their 9th year. Is she good? Yes. Is she being promoted? Yes. I imagine that she is seeing similar treatment that someone with the last name of Perry or Houculi is seeing. The name can get you there, but your ability allows you to stay.

Originally Posted by jjrye22

Seems to me there are questions and lists every year looking for ideas to recruit and retain officials, and a lot of states are scaling back how many they put on the field.

I think this is at the high school level, at least all the one's I've seen are.

[Rich]

Originally Posted by Sonofanump

I just want to make sure that we are talking about the same thing. This is NCAA. The competition to get into (D3, NAIA) is pretty tough. The competition to move up to where she is at (small D1) is insaine. This is her 9the year on the field total. Not too many officials are working D1 bowl games by their 9th year. Is she good? Yes. Is she being promoted? Yes. I imagine that she is seeing similar treatment that someone with the last name of Perry or Houculi is seeing. The name can get you there, but your ability allows you to stay.



I think this is at the high school level, at least all the one's I've seen are.

She did do 10 years at other levels before moving up, though -- right?

[bisonlj]

Originally Posted by RichMSN

She did do 10 years at other levels before moving up, though -- right?

She's in her 10th year now I believe. If she's working a bowl game this year, this wasn't her first year of college football. She has definitely moved up faster than most and I'm sure the fact that's she's a female helped her. But if she's qualified (and she appears to be), I don't fault her for taking advantage of the situation. I know an official who moved from D3 to the NFL in 5 years. Sometimes you just have to be in the right place at the right time and get seen by the right person.