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Old Tue Dec 08, 2009, 12:43am
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Did the Big 12 hire some former Russian basketball refs for this game?

Regardless of the technicalities, it is hard to avoid the general perception that "the fix was in."
Hmm. If "the fix was in" why would a Big 12 crew want Texas to win. By Texas winning and going to the National Championship that took away any oppurtunity that they may have had in getting to officiate the National Championship game. As it is now, the Big 12 and SEC is out of the running on officiating the game.
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Old Tue Dec 08, 2009, 10:57am
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If the fix was in it was the wrong fix. A Nebraska loss meant a huge financial loss for the Big 12. If Nebraska would have won they would have gone to a BCS bowl and Texas would have been the at large BCS pick. Two Big 12 teams in the BCS would have meant another $14 million in the Big 12's kitty. As it is, the Holiday Bowl's paying like $4 million, not $18 million.
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Old Tue Dec 08, 2009, 12:52pm
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I'm not sure I understand your question but I'll give you my answer. I assume just like some NF state can modify a rule or OT for example, the Big 12 modified the replay rules and from what I've read of them, it narrows the replay official's duties, taking away the latitude that 12-3-6 gives.

From the Big 12:

Miscellaneous
Article 3. Miscellaneous reviewable plays include:
a. A runner judged to have been not down by rule. (Note: If a runner is ruled down, the play is not reviewable).
b. A runner’s forward progress with respect to a first down.
c. Touching of any type kick by any player.
d. The number of players participating by either team during a live ball.
e. A scrimmage kicker beyond the line of scrimmage when the ball is kicked.
f. Clock adjustment when a ruling on the field is reversed.
g. A fumble recovery by a Team A player during fourth down or a try and before any change of possession.

Plays Not Reviewable
Article 4. No other plays or officiating decisions are reviewable.

So does the Big 12 or any conference have the ability to write their own rules and supersede the NCAA rule?
kdf5, you missed this part of the NCAA replay rules:

Limitations on Reviewable Plays
ARTICLE 6. No other plays or officiating decisions are reviewable.
However, the replay official may correct egregious errors, including those
involving the game clock
, whether or not a play is reviewable. This excludes
fouls that are not specifically reviewable (Reviewable fouls: Rules 12-3-2-c
and d, 12-3-4-b and 12-3-5-a).
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Old Tue Dec 08, 2009, 01:35pm
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kdf5, you missed this part of the NCAA replay rules:

Limitations on Reviewable Plays
ARTICLE 6. No other plays or officiating decisions are reviewable.
However, the replay official may correct egregious errors, including those
involving the game clock
, whether or not a play is reviewable. This excludes
fouls that are not specifically reviewable (Reviewable fouls: Rules 12-3-2-c
and d, 12-3-4-b and 12-3-5-a).
That splains it. I got that from someone who... nevermind, I got took!
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Old Tue Dec 08, 2009, 08:36pm
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Third and one, pass intercepted. Scared to run and take a hit. First down, field goal range interception. Receiver drops two passes no points. Neither team is that good. Hot head coach, has embarassed the Big Red Tradition. NE had there chances and could not finish again. "Su" is for real and should win the Heisman, but politic will come into play.
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Old Tue Dec 08, 2009, 09:35pm
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If the fix was in it was the wrong fix. A Nebraska loss meant a huge financial loss for the Big 12. If Nebraska would have won they would have gone to a BCS bowl and Texas would have been the at large BCS pick. Two Big 12 teams in the BCS would have meant another $14 million in the Big 12's kitty. As it is, the Holiday Bowl's paying like $4 million, not $18 million.
Acutally, the difference would have been 4.5 million if Texas received a BCS at large bid.
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Old Wed Dec 09, 2009, 11:51pm
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I'm not going to add anything meaningful to this conversation because I'm not a football official. But I think it's interesting that in the hyper media age, be it message boards, or talk shows etc all we here over and over again from fandom is got to have replay, officials suck, we have this technology why can't we use it, officials suck, got to get it right, rules be damned, officials suck, ad naseum.

Then in ONE instance in a high profile game where the great all powerful replay comes into play and corrects a situation that obviously should be corrected and what do we get? The same ole tired **** turned on its head. My team got screwed, officials suck, they didn't follow the rules, officials suck, how can they do that now they never did it before, officials suck, the fix is in, officials suck blah blah blah.
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Old Thu Dec 10, 2009, 11:42am
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I wonder

I wonder how much hand-wringing there would have been had the situation been reversed, with Nebraska needing the extra second on the clock but the officials didn't review it because the rule said they couldn't.
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TCU would beat either one of those teams!
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Old Mon Dec 14, 2009, 09:14am
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Third and one, pass intercepted. Scared to run and take a hit. First down, field goal range interception. Receiver drops two passes no points. Neither team is that good. Hot head coach, has embarassed the Big Red Tradition. NE had there chances and could not finish again. "Su" is for real and should win the Heisman, but politic will come into play.
What tradition has the NE coach embarassed? Was that the tradition of being a once proud program who disappeared into mediocrity. Get on your knees and thank god that this guy saved your a**. Great coach. More work to be done, but he is the man to do it.
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