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john_faz Mon Dec 07, 2009 10:22am

Texas v. Nebraska end of game
 
Does anyone know the correct ruling on whether the amount of time left in a half/game can be reviewed by replay officials?

I recently heard a Big Ten official speak and I am pretty sure he said that the time left on the clock is not reviewable. Maybe he was refering to a play a few years ago and the rule has since changed.

Are there specific references in the NCAA rulebok that speak to which kinds of plays are reviewable and for what purposes?

FBullock Mon Dec 07, 2009 11:11am

12-3-6 States:

The replay official may correct egregious errors, including those
involving the game clock, whether or not a play is reviewable.

john_faz Mon Dec 07, 2009 11:27am

I guess eliminating Texas' national title hopes falls under the "egregious rule". Otherwise, correcting a one second or less error would not be necessary, in my opinion.

mbyron Mon Dec 07, 2009 12:01pm

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Originally Posted by john_faz (Post 640306)
I guess eliminating Texas' national title hopes falls under the "egregious rule". Otherwise, correcting a one second or less error would not be necessary, in my opinion.

I disagree. The size of the time discrepancy is less important than when it occurs.

9:03 vs 9:02 in the 3rd quarter is not a big discrepancy. :01 vs :00 in the game is big, regardless of whether national title hopes are on the line.

Dakota Mon Dec 07, 2009 12:07pm

Did the Big 12 hire some former Russian basketball refs for this game?

Regardless of the technicalities, it is hard to avoid the general perception that "the fix was in."

Welpe Mon Dec 07, 2009 12:31pm

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Originally Posted by Dakota (Post 640313)
Regardless of the technicalities, it is hard to avoid the general perception that "the fix was in."

Maybe by bitter Nebraska fans. Replay shows pretty definitively that there was 1 second left on the clock when the ball hit out of bounds. The Big XII didn't force Nebraska to kick the ball out of bounds nor to commit a crucial horse collar foul on the last drive.

mbyron Mon Dec 07, 2009 01:01pm

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Originally Posted by Welpe (Post 640319)
The Big XII didn't force Nebraska to kick the ball out of bounds nor to commit a crucial horse collar foul on the last drive.

Exactly. I saw the kick go out of bounds and thought, "geez, they shot themselves in the foot!" And then the HCT: "they just shot the other foot!"

Cobra Mon Dec 07, 2009 01:52pm

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Originally Posted by Dakota (Post 640313)
Did the Big 12 hire some former Russian basketball refs for this game?

Regardless of the technicalities, it is hard to avoid the general perception that "the fix was in."

Then why in the 4th quarter did the officials get the call wrong on the kickoff return when they ruled the ball dead at the Texas 1 yard line?

BBall_Junkie Mon Dec 07, 2009 01:54pm

FWIW, I am a huge Nebraska fan as I have a great uncle who was the backfield coach under Devaney and Osborne and Nebraska has no one to blame but itself. The offense was horrendous the kick out of bounds was atrocious and the HCT sealed the deal.

I do however question (understand I do not attribute the loss to this at all) the two PI calls against Nebraska toward the end of the game. Ball seemed uncatchable to me both times. Thoughts, or was I just looking at these calls through my fan glasses?

Congrats to Texas on escaping your way into the BCS National Championship!

ajmc Mon Dec 07, 2009 02:01pm

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Originally Posted by Cobra (Post 640347)
Then why in the 4th quarter did the officials get the call wrong on the kickoff return when they ruled the ball dead at the Texas 1 yard line?

It's truly a shame, Cobra, that you cannot give Nebraske the credit they deserve for playing an absolutely outstanding defensive game in coming so close to pulling off the upset of the season. Only a real fool keeps jabbering about that which they've proven not to understand.

JRutledge Mon Dec 07, 2009 02:02pm

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Originally Posted by Cobra (Post 640347)
Then why in the 4th quarter did the officials get the call wrong on the kickoff return when they ruled the ball dead at the Texas 1 yard line?

I said the very same thing to a guy in a bar I was watching who insisted that they wanted Texas to win. If they wanted them to win so bad, they continue this very play and give them a shot to not start at their one yard line that this very poor ruling put Texas in a trick bag late in the game.

Then again, do not let the truth get in the way of a good story. http://www.runemasterstudios.com/gra.../smilielol.gif

Peace

Cobra Mon Dec 07, 2009 02:05pm

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Originally Posted by ajmc (Post 640359)
It's truly a shame, Cobra, that you cannot give Nebraske the credit they deserve for playing an absolutely outstanding defensive game in coming so close to pulling off the upset of the season. Only a real fool keeps jabbering about that which they've proven not to understand.

:confused::confused::confused:

JRutledge Mon Dec 07, 2009 02:06pm

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Originally Posted by ajmc (Post 640359)
It's truly a shame, Cobra, that you cannot give Nebraske the credit they deserve for playing an absolutely outstanding defensive game in coming so close to pulling off the upset of the season. Only a real fool keeps jabbering about that which they've proven not to understand.

He is not taking away credit from Nebraska. But if the officials were in on a "fix" they would not have made this bad call. And the kick out of bounds also hurt Nebraska as well as the obvious Horse collar (The same fool I was talking to claimed this was not an NCAA Rule. This is why you do not listen to fans people. http://www.runemasterstudios.com/gra...thumbsdown.gif)

Peace

Patton Mon Dec 07, 2009 02:11pm

JR, please explain the play he is speaking of...I only saw parts of the 4th quarter. Was there a questionable call at the 1 yard line???

BktBallRef Mon Dec 07, 2009 02:21pm

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Originally Posted by Dakota (Post 640313)
Did the Big 12 hire some former Russian basketball refs for this game?

Regardless of the technicalities, it is hard to avoid the general perception that "the fix was in."


Fix? Please. It was obvious that there was one second on the clock when the ball landed OOB.


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