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[yankeesfan]

on a free kick, R blocks K below the waist at the 50 yard and then the ball goes past the goal line for a touchback. where is the penalty enforced from? i would say 15 yards previous spot and re-kick. is this correct?

[HLin NC]

Rule 10-4
ART. 5 . . . The basic spot is the succeeding spot:
a. For an unsportsmanlike foul.
b. For a dead-ball foul.
c. For a nonplayer foul.
d. When the final result is a touchback

[ump33]

Originally Posted by HLin NC

Rule 10-4
ART. 5 . . . The basic spot is the succeeding spot:
a. For an unsportsmanlike foul.
b. For a dead-ball foul.
c. For a nonplayer foul.
d. When the final result is a touchback

Would this not be trumped by 10-4-2?
10-4-2 ... The basic spot is the previous spot:
b. For a foul that occurs during a loose ball play as defined in 10-3-1.

10-3-1 ... A loose ball play is action during:
a. A free or scrimmage kick, other than those defined in 2-33-1a

[bossman72]

i would say loose ball, rekick at R45 if accepted.

[HLin NC]

ump 33-

So if this had been a dead ball personal foul instead of live ball BBW and the kick entered the EZ for a touchback, would you make K rekick since it was a loose ball play or would you enforce from the succeeding spot?

Originally Posted by HLin NC View Post
Rule 10-4
ART. 5 . . . The basic spot is the succeeding spot:
a. For an unsportsmanlike foul.
b. For a dead-ball foul.
c. For a nonplayer foul.
d. When the final result is a touchback

Would this not be trumped by 10-4-2?
10-4-2 ... The basic spot is the previous spot:
b. For a foul that occurs during a loose ball play as defined in 10-3-1.

10-3-1 ... A loose ball play is action during:
a. A free or scrimmage kick, other than those defined in 2-33-1a

[LDUB]

Originally Posted by HLin NC

So if this had been a dead ball personal foul instead of live ball BBW and the kick entered the EZ for a touchback, would you make K rekick since it was a loose ball play or would you enforce from the succeeding spot?

I don't know. Does a loose ball play include action which occurs after the ball becomes dead?

[ump33]

HLin NC -

2-41-1 ... The basic spot is a point of reference for penalty enforcement. It is the previous spot for a loose-ball play unless the only accepted penalities meet the requirements of a PSK foul and the end of the run for a running play.

If this was scrimage kick and R blocks K below the waist at the line of scrimmage after which the ball/kick enters the endzone (touchback), would you use 10-4-5b and enforce from the suceeding spot? How does this differ from the OP other than a Free Kick versus a Scrimmage Kick?

Originally Posted by HLin NC

ump 33-

So if this had been a dead ball personal foul instead of live ball BBW and the kick entered the EZ for a touchback, would you make K rekick since it was a loose ball play or would you enforce from the succeeding spot?

[Welpe]

Originally Posted by bossman72

i would say loose ball, rekick at R45 if accepted.

I agree. This is a loose ball play and all fouls during loose ball plays (except non-player and unsportsmanlike) are enforced from the previous spot.