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on a free kick, R blocks K below the waist at the 50 yard and then the ball goes past the goal line for a touchback. where is the penalty enforced from? i would say 15 yards previous spot and re-kick. is this correct?
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Rule 10-4
ART. 5 . . . The basic spot is the succeeding spot: a. For an unsportsmanlike foul. b. For a dead-ball foul. c. For a nonplayer foul. d. When the final result is a touchback |
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10-4-2 ... The basic spot is the previous spot: b. For a foul that occurs during a loose ball play as defined in 10-3-1. 10-3-1 ... A loose ball play is action during: a. A free or scrimmage kick, other than those defined in 2-33-1a |
i would say loose ball, rekick at R45 if accepted.
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So if this had been a dead ball personal foul instead of live ball BBW and the kick entered the EZ for a touchback, would you make K rekick since it was a loose ball play or would you enforce from the succeeding spot? Quote:
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2-41-1 ... The basic spot is a point of reference for penalty enforcement. It is the previous spot for a loose-ball play unless the only accepted penalities meet the requirements of a PSK foul and the end of the run for a running play. If this was scrimage kick and R blocks K below the waist at the line of scrimmage after which the ball/kick enters the endzone (touchback), would you use 10-4-5b and enforce from the suceeding spot? How does this differ from the OP other than a Free Kick versus a Scrimmage Kick? Quote:
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Any foul occurring before the ball crosses the goal line is during a loose ball play and will be enforced from the previous spot, so you march off 15 yards against R and rekick from the R-45. If the foul happens after crossing the goal line then you march it off from the succeeding spot making it 1/10 from the R-10.
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ART. 7 . . . A free kick is not repeated unless:
a. A foul occurs prior to a change of possession and the penalty acceptance requires a replay of the down.b. There is a double foul. c. There is an inadvertent whistle during the kick. |
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In the original question, the offended teams choice would be to accept the penalty and replay the down after enforcing a 15 yard penalty from the previous spot, or accept the result of the play, which would be a touchback. If the foul had been a dead ball foul enforcement would be from the succeeding spot, which would be the R 20 yard line, following the touchback. Rekick would not be an option. |
I agree with AJMC. Nuff said, Jim
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I know I'm late to this party, but I had this exact situation occur earlier this season (the second time I ever worked as R). My umpire and I on the field came up with this resulting in a rekick, since it happened during the looseball play. I brought it up in my class the following week, and the class agreed that it's a rekick.
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Wow!!!
Holy cow, you guys think of the good ones. Looks like there are a lot of ways to interpret this.
Seems to me the question is whether 10-4d trumps 10-4-2b or vice versa. They conflict, so which one wins?? By rule there can not be a play that results in a touchback that is not a loose ball play (although I realize 10-3-1 only speaks of kicks). Any non-loose ball play in A/K's end zone must be a safety. Just some more fodder for the conversation. I'm not suggesting anyone is right or wrong. |
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This free kick enforcement isn't hard. It is a loose ball play until a running play starts. Fouls during the loose ball play are enforced from the previous spot. |
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