2 video clips. What do you think ...

[JugglingReferee]

Play 1 - could be a spear. I can't say for certain. Might look again later.

Play 2 - looks like he leads with the shoulder.

[InsideTheStripe]

I'm kind of surprised...

From what I reading here (regarding play #2), most have no problem with a defender leaving his feet to launch himself at a defenseless opponent's head as long as his initial contact with the opponent's helmet is with the shoulder?





I think it's both unnecessary and incites roughness. 9-4-3 (g)

[Welpe]

I fixed your links so that they are clickable:

http://38.119.57.149/video/151/10162...2019.46.43.wmv

http://38.119.57.149/video/151/10162...2020.03.19.wmv

[Welpe]

I don't see anything on the first.

On the second video, I see at least a running into the kicker. I don't think the video is conclusive on the legality of the block. It looks like a lead with the shoulder but that doesn't mean it is.

[jaybird]

Play #1- No foul
Play #2- RTK. No foul on the side block at the 37.

[jemiller]

Tough camera angle on the first one. I didn't see an infraction. Looking at it from the other side it might have been, and that is where the U was who thru the flag.

2nd one is tough too. If the blocker launched himself at the defender's head I think that there could be a basis for unnecessary roughness. That's why we are on the field and I suspect have a better angle to judge these blocks. Jim

[PSU213]

I don't really see the foul in play 2 (other than RTK).

Just to play devil's advocate here...should the R signaled for a TD on the play even though he was the one who threw the roughing the kicker foul?

[waltjp]

Originally Posted by jaybird

Play #1- No foul
Play #2- RTK. No foul on the side block at the 37.

Agree x2

[jjrye22]

We have been told to not signal if we personally have a flag (at any position).