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Thu Oct 22, 2009, 08:18pm
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Neither is a foul. Pathetic.
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Thu Oct 22, 2009, 09:34pm
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Play 1 - could be a spear. I can't say for certain. Might look again later.
Play 2 - looks like he leads with the shoulder.
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Thu Oct 22, 2009, 09:56pm
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I'm kind of surprised...
From what I reading here (regarding play #2), most have no problem with a defender leaving his feet to launch himself at a defenseless opponent's head as long as his initial contact with the opponent's helmet is with the shoulder?  I think it's both unnecessary and incites roughness. 9-4-3 (g)
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Thu Oct 22, 2009, 10:05pm
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I fixed your links so that they are clickable:
http://38.119.57.149/video/151/10162...2019.46.43.wmv http://38.119.57.149/video/151/10162...2020.03.19.wmv
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Thu Oct 22, 2009, 10:14pm
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I don't see anything on the first.
On the second video, I see at least a running into the kicker. I don't think the video is conclusive on the legality of the block. It looks like a lead with the shoulder but that doesn't mean it is.
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