2 video clips. What do you think ...

[Durham]

A friend of mine asked me about these two plays, he said on both his guys got flagged for helmet to helmet contact. What do you guys see?

Copy and paste this whole link...and watch

http://38.119.57.149/video/151/10162009NEVADA UNION MINERSvVALLEY VIKINGS/angle2/DSV20091016 19.46.43.wmv

This one accured about the 37 yard line 12 or so seconds into the clip

http://38.119.57.149/video/151/10162009NEVADA UNION MINERSvVALLEY VIKINGS/angle1/DSV20091016 20.03.19.wmv

[Durham]

Make sure to copy from http all the way to wmv.

[bossman72]

Play #1 - awful

Play #2 - looks as though he lead with his shoulder.

[Ref inSoCA]

Neither is a foul. Pathetic.

[JugglingReferee]

Play 1 - could be a spear. I can't say for certain. Might look again later.

Play 2 - looks like he leads with the shoulder.

[InsideTheStripe]

I'm kind of surprised...

From what I reading here (regarding play #2), most have no problem with a defender leaving his feet to launch himself at a defenseless opponent's head as long as his initial contact with the opponent's helmet is with the shoulder?





I think it's both unnecessary and incites roughness. 9-4-3 (g)