Free kick after a fair catch?

[Rich]

Originally Posted by Canned Heat

Extremely rare..and yes, it is legal and "bbcof83" has posted good examples. I wonder how many coaches even know of this ruling.

This discussion actually won me a bottle of Crown Royal between me and 2 others on my crew that insisted you cannot kick a free kick thru the goal posts for points and/or that you can't kick a field goal from a tee. If I'm not mistaken, this is only allowed in NFHS and NFL...not NCAA. And in the NFL, a tee is not allowed to be used.

8-4-1:
A field goal is scored as follows:
a. The field goal attempt shall be a place kick or a drop kick from scrimmage, or from a free kick following a fair catch, or an awarded fair catch.

The weird thing in the NFL is not being able to use a tee after a safety or a fair catch (free kick). It's most certainly not a rule in HS, although a coach wanted to argue this with me when a team chose to "kickoff" following a safety a few years ago.

[BAlaxer]

Originally Posted by RichMSN

The weird thing in the NFL is not being able to use a tee after a safety or a fair catch (free kick). It's most certainly not a rule in HS, although a coach wanted to argue this with me when a team chose to "kickoff" following a safety a few years ago.

I do think there is a rule where the scoring team is allowed to choose if they want to kick or recieve. Everyone just assumes they want to recieve and we never ask it.

[Welpe]

Originally Posted by BAlaxer

I do think there is a rule where the scoring team is allowed to choose if they want to kick or recieve. Everyone just assumes they want to recieve and we never ask it.

The rule is that the scored upon team will designate which team will kick off.

[BAlaxer]

Originally Posted by Welpe

The rule is that the scored upon team will designate which team will kick off.

Thank You

[Eastshire]

Originally Posted by Welpe

The rule is that the scored upon team will designate which team will kick off.

I'm confused. A safety occurs when Team A is tackled in its end zone. So team A is the scored upon team. If the scored upon team designates which team kicks off, why would they designate themselves?

[mbyron]

Originally Posted by Eastshire

I'm confused. A safety occurs when Team A is tackled in its end zone. So team A is the scored upon team. If the scored upon team designates which team kicks off, why would they designate themselves?

B is not the scoring team when A gives up a safety. Rather, the points are "awarded to" B, almost like a penalty. See 8-1.

Since B is not the scoring team, A is not the scored upon team. Instead, the team that gives up the safety by rule must free kick to the other team. The usual options of the scoring team do not apply.

[Eastshire]

Originally Posted by mbyron

B is not the scoring team when A gives up a safety. Rather, the points are "awarded to" B, almost like a penalty. See 8-1.

Since B is not the scoring team, A is not the scored upon team. Instead, the team that gives up the safety by rule must free kick to the other team. The usual options of the scoring team do not apply.

Ah, thanks for clearing that up for me.

[LDUB]

Originally Posted by Welpe

The rule is that the scored upon team will designate which team will kick off.

Originally Posted by Eastshire

I'm confused. A safety occurs when Team A is tackled in its end zone. So team A is the scored upon team. If the scored upon team designates which team kicks off, why would they designate themselves?

Originally Posted by mbyron

B is not the scoring team when A gives up a safety. Rather, the points are "awarded to" B, almost like a penalty. See 8-1.

Since B is not the scoring team, A is not the scored upon team. Instead, the team that gives up the safety by rule must free kick to the other team. The usual options of the scoring team do not apply.

You guys are making this way harder than it is. There is no designating after a safety. Also the free kick after a safety is not a kickoff.

8-3 ART. 9 . . . After a try, the opponent of the scoring team shall designate which team will kick off.

8-4 ART. 2 . . . After a field goal, the opponent of the scoring team shall designate which team will kick off.