Defensive calls Illegal...?

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by bigjohn

I have never said all things happen in just my games. I see a lot of games and have been doing this a long time, Mr Official. I see 3 to 5 scouting tapes a week and see clips from games all over the state via the internet.

Let me get this straight, you get videos that have enough sound to hear what players are saying to each other? I mean it is difficult to hear NFL and college games with much more technology to know what is being said directly on the field all the time. Even if you saw tape, I find it hard to believe that there are defenses doing this all the time to the point they are violating the rules. Defense can call signals out to each other that is legal. And I have never heard a coach complain that they saw this on tape and this was something we needed to watch out for. Now when it comes to low blocks or hitting someone out of the play, I heard that from time to time. Never head someone claim this was done after they watched the tape.

Peace

[bigjohn]

Most scouting films have sound. You would not believe the comments we hear from film crews and coaches on the scout tapes(DVDs) it is hilarious sometimes.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by bigjohn

Most scouting films have sound. You would not believe the comments we hear from film crews and coaches on the scout tapes(DVDs) it is hilarious sometimes.

We get scouting tapes too, but those are comments from the press box and not only the field. Or better yet you hear the fans and other people standing near the camera. You usually do not hear things directly on the field or the sideline for that matter.

Peace

[jjrye22]

I actually had a disconcerting signals in a game this year. I was FJ and back about 18 yards, and even I clearly heard it. The O jumped offside at the signal (a hut from the NT) and flags went (not mine).
I ran in to ask the others if they had heard the hut from the NT and they all agreed that he had done it to draw the FS.
No real problem and no discussion - most teams around here are quiet on defense which would make it obvious if they try something like this.

[Robert Goodman]

I suggest the adoption of words reserved to teams A & B, respectively. Just a couple of short lists of words the other team couldn't use at the line.

[RadioBlue]

Originally Posted by Robert Goodman

I suggest the adoption of words reserved to teams A & B, respectively. Just a couple of short lists of words the other team couldn't use at the line.

And then we, as officials, would have to discern exactly what word was said by a player who has a mouth full of a mouth guard? No, thank you.

[Robert Goodman]

Originally Posted by RadioBlue

And then we, as officials, would have to discern exactly what word was said by a player who has a mouth full of a mouth guard? No, thank you.

Easier than detecting whether a signal was disconcerting. Remember, the players are listening for those words too, so it's not like your job would be any harder than theirs. If you didn't hear a certain word, they didn't hear it either.

Robert

[ajmc]

Originally Posted by Robert Goodman

I suggest the adoption of words reserved to teams A & B, respectively. Just a couple of short lists of words the other team couldn't use at the line.

We already have lists. They are in the mind of, "the covering official" in whom NF: 1-1-6 provides the authority, "to rule promptly and in the spirit of good sportsmanship" and whose decisions, "are final in all matters pertaining to the game.".

Common sense would suggest that the way for patricipants to insure they are compliant, would be to stay as far away as possible from from what might be on that list, by behaving themselves. Risk versus reward applies, and that is how it should be considered.