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Old Tue Sep 15, 2009, 07:10am
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I believe the key comment in the case book play included earlier is, "If in the official's judgment the action by B1 was for the purpose of disconcerting or hindering A, it is an unsportsmanlike conduct foul."

If you want to put up with a never ending escalation of nonsense, you can ignore this silliness, otherwise you can choose to put a stop to it, either by letting the linemen, on both teams, know in uncertain terms it's unacceptable or, if necessary, flagging someone.
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Old Tue Sep 15, 2009, 07:57am
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I have told officials, The defense can't use those tactics and been told. "Sure they can coach, that is football".
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Old Tue Sep 15, 2009, 12:04pm
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I have told officials, The defense can't use those tactics and been told. "Sure they can coach, that is football".
I wouldn't know how to make it any clearer than, "in the official's judgment".
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Old Tue Sep 15, 2009, 12:18pm
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Which clearly means, "it is called differently, every Friday night!" Just depends on what kind of official is making that judgment call. That my friend is called, inconsistency and that is what drives coaches crazy!
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Old Tue Sep 15, 2009, 01:02pm
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=That my friend is called, inconsistency and that is what drives coaches crazy!
Well that's what happens when you using human beings as officials. Someone has to make the judgment whether or not an act is illegal. We can use rules an philosophy but we still have to apply our judgment. That is what we get paid to do.

John, I still think you would benefit from seeing some snaps as an official. My this discussion seems familiar.
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Old Tue Sep 15, 2009, 01:35pm
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The problem is that oftentimes a guy's philosophy of football impairs his judgment of the rules and interpretations as written.

I think I would do just fine as an official and may do just that when I no longer am a coach. I will retire from teaching and coaching in 5 years and plan to do just that.

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Old Tue Sep 15, 2009, 01:57pm
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I wouldn't be so quick to discount it...I thought the same thing when I was a coach.
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Old Tue Sep 15, 2009, 05:27pm
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The problem is that oftentimes a guy's philosophy of football impairs his judgment of the rules and interpretations as written.

I think I would do just fine as an official and may do just that when I no longer am a coach. I will retire from teaching and coaching in 5 years and plan to do just that.
You have a lot of serious things taking place in your games. I rarely ever hear the defense give signals that at all can be confused with the offense. Dude, what kind of cheap football do you guys play in Ohio?

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Old Sun Sep 20, 2009, 10:16pm
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The problem is that oftentimes a guy's philosophy of football impairs his judgment of the rules and interpretations as written.

I think I would do just fine as an official and may do just that when I no longer am a coach. I will retire from teaching and coaching in 5 years and plan to do just that.
There goes the neighborhood!
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Old Tue Sep 15, 2009, 03:57pm
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Which clearly means, "it is called differently, every Friday night!" Just depends on what kind of official is making that judgment call. That my friend is called, inconsistency and that is what drives coaches crazy!
Have you ever considered that rather than the inconsistency driving you crazy, it's your expectation that things that happen in different games, between different teams and players, under different circumstances and conditions would some how be rigidly consistent, that's causing your agita?
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