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Old Wed Aug 19, 2009, 02:11pm
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It's a live ball foul, but also a non-player foul, so the enforcement spot is the succeeding spot.
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Old Wed Aug 19, 2009, 03:36pm
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...and I know it may seem like minor semantics, but it is now called the "Restricted Area" - you may want to refer to it as that, especially when talking to coaches about it. If we continue to say "Coaches Box", the coaches may in some subconscious way feel the right to be in that area, even though the rule is changed. If we say "Restricted Area", that gives a clear indication that a coach has no right to be in there (during a live ball).
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Old Wed Aug 19, 2009, 03:47pm
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Good point
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Old Wed Aug 19, 2009, 04:15pm
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This one is going to be a real rough one for this year. 5 years ago you had a tough time keeping a HC off the edge of the playing field, better yet, in the box. I wonder how many long time coaches are going to get hammered on this one throughout the year.
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Old Wed Aug 19, 2009, 04:32pm
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This one is going to be a real rough one for this year. 5 years ago you had a tough time keeping a HC off the edge of the playing field, better yet, in the box. I wonder how many long time coaches are going to get hammered on this one throughout the year.
Probably only the few who insist on being unreasonable or irrational.
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Old Wed Aug 19, 2009, 07:29pm
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This one is going to be a real rough one for this year. 5 years ago you had a tough time keeping a HC off the edge of the playing field, better yet, in the box. I wonder how many long time coaches are going to get hammered on this one throughout the year.
For the fields that are properly marked - especially those artificial turf fields, it should be pretty easy. The white is clearly marked, so I don't think it will be that big a deal. We did it during spring games and it worked fine. This week we start scrimmages - we'll see how it works out.
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Old Wed Aug 19, 2009, 09:29pm
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For the fields that are properly marked - especially those artificial turf fields,
At our scrimmage Saturday night, one of the BJ/Wingmen brought up a point.

We were on an artificial surface with the white border. About 10 of our schools have gone to Field Turf in the last 3-4 years. Only two of those stadiums were started from scratch, a third has a track around it and an awesome soccer program so that field is wider. The rest were built on existing fields, inside the confines of the existing stadium.

None of these field's borders have the NFHS specified 2 yards or more restricted area marked. My guess is these borders measure out at about 4 feet wide. One or two fields may be half that.

This BJ began pointing to a soccer sideline beyond the border and declared that was closer to 6 ft and that should be the restricted area if he were on a wing. I responded that the border area, while not within the NFHS specs, was certainly more discernable, and I, a wing, could more than live with that space. Its certainly more room than I've had in the prior 15 years.

I'll be interested to see how well the grass fields are marked. One school in particular is little more than a glorified cow pasture. My feeling is the grass fields will actually be marked to the 2 yd. spec since they have to be painted and those coaches will be further back than games on turf. (Not that I care)
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Old Thu Aug 20, 2009, 08:12am
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It's a live ball foul, flagged at the snap (if they're still standing in the restricted area at that time) or during the play. Remember the three-tier penalty: Warning on 1st offense, 5-yards on 2nd, and 15-yards USC on head coach subsequent offenses. I was told the other day that a crew actually flagged this about 6 times during a scrimmage, just to teach the team a lesson. I have a feeling the first couple weeks might see some flags for this and then it'll subside.
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