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Old Tue Jul 28, 2009, 03:25pm
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You seem to be stuck on one kid I have coached in 25 years. One Kid. and we were so thin I didn't have much choice but.... to your question. You can eject a player for swinging a fist if it doesn't connect can't you? or a kick that doesn't land?
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Old Tue Jul 28, 2009, 03:31pm
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You seem to be stuck on one kid I have coached in 25 years. One Kid. and we were so thin I didn't have much choice but.... to your question. You can eject a player for swinging a fist if it doesn't connect can't you? or a kick that doesn't land?
John I have been in enough situations where no problem is solved with only one solution. And you have not come up with any other solution but this thought that the magic flag solves all problems. Man, I really wish I was the President of the United States, then I could just throw a flag and the banking issues would be solved, the real estate issues would be solved, and the Health Care issue would be all solved, because those things only have issue keeping them from being functional.

And I am sure every ejection will be taken with no appeal or complaining and will be accepted with little or no fan fare. You know, like holding and passing interference are so widely accepted. Maybe I have missed what NFL Films shows when a call goes against the team.

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Old Tue Jul 28, 2009, 04:05pm
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John,
I think your problem is you are conducting your crusade in the wrong spot. Everyone here agrees IHC is a problem and needs to be called. We really don't need studies showing us the potential for danger, or some therapists opinion it's dangerous and all the other stuff you keep bringing up. We get it already.
Unfortunately, from what appears to be your point of view, it's not being called enough. And why is that? Probably because you don't agree with the general officiating philosophy that a foul, any foul, must be big, obvious, and no doubt about it before the flag flies. The great majority of the officials here, upon viewing your video examples, lean toward "no call" because the videos don't meet that standard. Yes, they are bad hits. Yes, in some of the examples the player was injured. But the angle, or video quality, or where we see the initial contact does not bring them to the level of being called. Like others have said, we can only call what we can see.
So, if you want to change that philosophy of when the flag flies, if for IHC you want it changed to anything that comes close to initiating contact with the helmet, you really need to start with your local assoc, perhaps your state rules interpretor, and eventually the NFHS itself. Until then, you are not going to convince anyone here to go against what and how their assoc is instructing them to do things.
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