The Official Forum  

Go Back   The Official Forum > Football
Register FAQ Community Calendar Today's Posts Search

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Rate Thread Display Modes
  #1 (permalink)  
Old Tue May 19, 2009, 08:53pm
Official Forum Member
 
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Roanoke, VA
Posts: 73
Send a message via AIM to Brandon Kincer
Opinions on this........

What are your opinions on carrying a rulebook with you on to the field?
Reply With Quote
  #2 (permalink)  
Old Tue May 19, 2009, 08:56pm
Official Forum Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: Randolph, NJ
Posts: 1,936
Send a message via Yahoo to waltjp
Quote:
Originally Posted by brandon kincer View Post
what are your opinions on carrying a rulebook with you on to the field?
never!
__________________
I got a fever! And the only prescription.. is more cowbell!
Reply With Quote
  #3 (permalink)  
Old Tue May 19, 2009, 09:16pm
Chain of Fools
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Posts: 1,648
Leave it in the car or bag for discussion in pre-game or post-game. NEVER take it on the field.

You shouldn't have room for it anyway- bag, flag, 2nd bag, 2nd flag, zip ties, golf tee, back up whistle, pencil, back-up pencil, car key, spare coin, game card, gum, game check, handwarmer packs, reading glasses- where am I going to put a rule book?
Reply With Quote
  #4 (permalink)  
Old Tue May 19, 2009, 09:19pm
Archaic Power Monger
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Houston, TX
Posts: 5,983
You HLs carry too much crap.

What these guys said, don't carry one. In the middle of the game is the wrong time to be digging through it to prove a point.

From what I understand, Ohio, or certain parts, has a requirement that the chain crew have one with them, which is provided by the officials. Glad I don't work in Ohio in that regard.
__________________
Even if you’re on the right track, you’ll get run over if you just sit there. - Will Rogers
Reply With Quote
  #5 (permalink)  
Old Wed May 20, 2009, 05:33am
Official Forum Member
 
Join Date: Aug 1999
Posts: 1,130
Quote:
Originally Posted by Welpe View Post
You HLs carry too much crap.

What these guys said, don't carry one. In the middle of the game is the wrong time to be digging through it to prove a point.

From what I understand, Ohio, or certain parts, has a requirement that the chain crew have one with them, which is provided by the officials. Glad I don't work in Ohio in that regard.
Or, Long Island!

Years ago our Interpreter disallowed a field goal when a R player tipped the ball in an attempt to block it but the ball still went over the crossbar. The "brains" that run our Association decided the rule book should be available at each varsity game.
__________________
Ed Hickland, MBA, CCP
[email protected]
Reply With Quote
  #6 (permalink)  
Old Wed May 20, 2009, 07:12am
Official Forum Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: Randolph, NJ
Posts: 1,936
Send a message via Yahoo to waltjp
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ed Hickland View Post
Or, Long Island!

Years ago our Interpreter disallowed a field goal when a R player tipped the ball in an attempt to block it but the ball still went over the crossbar. The "brains" that run our Association decided the rule book should be available at each varsity game.
Would have made much more sense to replace your interpreter!
__________________
I got a fever! And the only prescription.. is more cowbell!
Reply With Quote
  #7 (permalink)  
Old Wed May 20, 2009, 02:35pm
Official Forum Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2001
Posts: 508
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ed Hickland View Post
Or, Long Island!

Years ago our Interpreter disallowed a field goal when a R player tipped the ball in an attempt to block it but the ball still went over the crossbar. The "brains" that run our Association decided the rule book should be available at each varsity game.
This argument always amuses me. I admit, I am one of the poor abused officials who is required to have a rulebook available to me. And, I must admit, I respectfully disagree with each and every one of you that opposes that idea.

We need look no further than this situation to show why having one available is a good idea. This situation is kind of wacky and the official blew it. If he had the book he could have taken a minute to check the rule. Instead, out of ego or stubborness this error stood. I don't get it.
Reply With Quote
  #8 (permalink)  
Old Tue May 19, 2009, 09:26pm
Official Forum Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: Randolph, NJ
Posts: 1,936
Send a message via Yahoo to waltjp
Quote:
Originally Posted by HLin NC View Post
Leave it in the car or bag for discussion in pre-game or post-game. NEVER take it on the field.

You shouldn't have room for it anyway- bag, flag, 2nd bag, 2nd flag, zip ties, golf tee, back up whistle, pencil, back-up pencil, car key, spare coin, game card, gum, game check, handwarmer packs, reading glasses- where am I going to put a rule book?
Golf tee?
__________________
I got a fever! And the only prescription.. is more cowbell!
Reply With Quote
  #9 (permalink)  
Old Tue May 19, 2009, 10:00pm
Official Forum Member
 
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Roanoke, VA
Posts: 73
Send a message via AIM to Brandon Kincer
Quote:
Originally Posted by HLin NC View Post
Leave it in the car or bag for discussion in pre-game or post-game. NEVER take it on the field.

You shouldn't have room for it anyway- bag, flag, 2nd bag, 2nd flag, zip ties, golf tee, back up whistle, pencil, back-up pencil, car key, spare coin, game card, gum, game check, handwarmer packs, reading glasses- where am I going to put a rule book?
Zip ties, Reading Glasses, Back up whistle?
Reply With Quote
  #10 (permalink)  
Old Tue May 19, 2009, 10:28pm
Official Forum Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: Randolph, NJ
Posts: 1,936
Send a message via Yahoo to waltjp
Quote:
Originally Posted by Brandon Kincer View Post
Zip ties, Reading Glasses, Back up whistle?
Zip ties - To facilitate a quick repair on a broken chain

Reading Glasses - You'll find out. Wait til your 45-50.

Back up whistle - Obvious, used to signal those behind you when you're about to back up.

__________________
I got a fever! And the only prescription.. is more cowbell!
Reply With Quote
  #11 (permalink)  
Old Tue May 19, 2009, 11:31pm
Official Forum Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Oklahoma
Posts: 341
Quote:
Originally Posted by waltjp View Post
Back up whistle - Obvious, used to signal those behind you when you're about to back up.

... which is activated by escaping exhaust triggered by reverse action leg motion!
Reply With Quote
  #12 (permalink)  
Old Wed May 20, 2009, 11:06am
Official Forum Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Alabama
Posts: 226
Quote:
Originally Posted by waltjp View Post
Back up whistle - Obvious, used to signal those behind you when you're about to back up.

Where do you carry your back up whistle?
__________________
Experience is something you don't get until just after you need it.
Reply With Quote
  #13 (permalink)  
Old Fri May 22, 2009, 04:47pm
Official Forum Member
 
Join Date: May 2007
Location: Great Britain
Posts: 244
Quote:
Originally Posted by Brandon Kincer View Post
Zip ties, Reading Glasses, Back up whistle?
Zip Ties.
Every chain set of the teams I work has one of my (bright yellow) zip ties at its midpoint, easier to see than tape that gets dirty over time. So I can see where the down box is in comparison with the ziptie and know whether a 5yd penalty (eg offside) on the D gives us a 1st down or not. When the crew go round the horn with the down, HL adds the distance so that the white hat will know it too.
We try to stick to a set vocabulary for distance - inches, short, five, long, ten, two stakes. Very occasionally might use other exact distances, 15, 20 or 25, etc.

I also keep a black or white zip tie with me for repairing the chains if they break. I keep one inside the band of each of my hats, that way I never have to remember to take one out on the field - if I remember to wear a hat, I've got one with me. I've needed it several times so far in my career.

Backup whistle.
I always make sure I got two of everything out there with me - and that includes a whistle. Where do you put all this stuff? That's why officials pants have 4 pockets.

Reading glasses
Well in my case, I've worn regular glasses since I was a kid. Now I'm old, I get to wear varifocals.
__________________
Sorry Death, you lose.... It was Professor Plum!
Reply With Quote
  #14 (permalink)  
Old Fri May 22, 2009, 05:59pm
Official Forum Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Posts: 1,593
Quote:
Originally Posted by With_Two_Flakes View Post
Zip Ties.
I also keep a black or white zip tie with me for repairing the chains if they break. I keep one inside the band of each of my hats, that way I never have to remember to take one out on the field - if I remember to wear a hat, I've got one with me. I've needed it several times so far in my career.
Now that is a really great idea and an ideal spot to keep what may a really important piece of repair equipment. It's not like a chain breaks every game, so putting that tie in your hat inside band may cover you for an entire season, or longer. Great, and practical, tip.
Reply With Quote
  #15 (permalink)  
Old Mon May 25, 2009, 06:53am
Official Forum Member
 
Join Date: Aug 1999
Posts: 1,130
Quote:
Originally Posted by With_Two_Flakes View Post
Zip Ties.
Every chain set of the teams I work has one of my (bright yellow) zip ties at its midpoint, easier to see than tape that gets dirty over time. So I can see where the down box is in comparison with the ziptie and know whether a 5yd penalty (eg offside) on the D gives us a 1st down or not. When the crew go round the horn with the down, HL adds the distance so that the white hat will know it too.
We try to stick to a set vocabulary for distance - inches, short, five, long, ten, two stakes. Very occasionally might use other exact distances, 15, 20 or 25, etc.

I also keep a black or white zip tie with me for repairing the chains if they break. I keep one inside the band of each of my hats, that way I never have to remember to take one out on the field - if I remember to wear a hat, I've got one with me. I've needed it several times so far in my career.

Backup whistle.
I always make sure I got two of everything out there with me - and that includes a whistle. Where do you put all this stuff? That's why officials pants have 4 pockets.

Reading glasses
Well in my case, I've worn regular glasses since I was a kid. Now I'm old, I get to wear varifocals.
I like the idea of the zip tie.

My crew toolbag has extra clips, reading glasses and quick links -- for broken chains.

Quick links are great and we have different sizes for the different chains we encounter. Had a big playoff game where the chain broke away from the stake which usually requires a massive tape job and quite a few minutes. We took a big quick link hooked it to the stake and the first link of the chain in less than a minute.
__________________
Ed Hickland, MBA, CCP
[email protected]
Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Opinions on this? billgates51 Football 38 Tue May 05, 2009 03:35pm
Opinions please. Chess Ref Softball 13 Tue Mar 25, 2008 05:57pm
Your opinions please hawk65 Basketball 41 Thu Feb 01, 2007 01:52pm
Opinions radwaste50 Football 15 Wed Aug 30, 2006 02:38am
Need Opinions tmp44 Basketball 12 Thu Feb 24, 2005 11:17am


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 03:19am.



Search Engine Friendly URLs by vBSEO 3.3.0 RC1