Free Kick After Fair Catch w/no time left?

[BktBallRef]

Originally Posted by daggo66

There is no provision for extending the half or game under NFHS rules for that scenario. 3.3.3. If you are playing semi-pro aren't you using NFL rules?

If there's a flag for KCI and R takes an awarded FC on the last timed down of the period, a FK could be attempted during the untimed down.

If a FC or a awarded FC occurred, the offense accepted a defensive penalty following the 1st down play and time expired, the offense could take a FK during the untimed down.

[daggo66]

Originally Posted by BktBallRef

If there's a flag for KCI and R takes an awarded FC on the last timed down of the period, a FK could be attempted during the untimed down.

If a FC or a awarded FC occurred, the offense accepted a defensive penalty following the 1st down play and time expired, the offense could take a FK during the untimed down.

I'm not so sure about that. Why would they get an untimed down? Accepting the awarded FC doesn't provide for a replay of the down.

[ajmc]

Originally Posted by daggo66

I'm not so sure about that. Why would they get an untimed down? Accepting the awarded FC doesn't provide for a replay of the down.

The awarding of a fair catch, as described in the above play is one of the penalty options available. Accepting the KCI penalty would offer the same provision, of an untimed down, as accepting any other foul committed during the last timed down of a period.

[daggo66]

I don't necessarily agree since by accepting an "awarded" FC there is no replay provision. On what basis are you extending the period. Please provide references.

[Ed Hickland]

Originally Posted by daggo66

I don't necessarily agree since by accepting an "awarded" FC there is no replay provision. On what basis are you extending the period. Please provide references.

NFHS 6-5-6 Penalty R may accept a 15-yard penalty from the previous spot and the replay of the down or choose to accept the penalty of an awarded fair catch at the spot of the foul.

And, NFHS 3-3-3a A period must be extended by an untimed down if during the last timed down of the period, one of the following occurred: a. There was a foul by either team and the penalty is accepted, except for unsportsmanlike fouls, non-player fouls and fouls that specify a loss of down...

[daggo66]

I've thought this through and it makes sense now. If they didn't get another play after the awarded fair catch and it was replayed instead, K wouldn't kick the ball.

[ajmc]

Originally Posted by daggo66

I've thought this through and it makes sense now. If they didn't get another play after the awarded fair catch and it was replayed instead, K wouldn't kick the ball.

I think you're still missing the point. BskBallRef,s started out with the presumption, "If there's a flag for KCI and R takes an awarded FC" . That means the penalty for the KCI was accepted, and the fouled team is entitled to an untimed down.

Because of the unique options associated with an accepted FCI penalty, R gets to choose if they wish to begin, their untimed down, either by a snap or a free kick. If they choose a free kick, it can score 3 points if goes over the cross bar between the uprights.

If there is a foul during that untimed down, R would be given another untimed down, after penalty enforcement and again, they would have the option to put the ball in play by either snap, or free kick.

Example: R is behind by 2 points. R chooses an awarded FC after K commits KCI at the 50 yard line, and time expires during the kick. R chooses to start an untimed down with a forward pass, that is complete to the "K" (now "B") 35 yard line, and "B" roughs the passer.

"R" (now "A") accepts the penalty for roughing, which brings the ball to the "B" 20 yard line, and entitles "A" to another untimed down. Because the next untimed down will be a repeat of a down for which "A" had the choice to snap or free kick, that choice continues to the next untimed down.

"A" can elect to free kick from the "B" 20 yard line. "B's" free kick line will be their own 10 yard line, and if the kick passes over the crossbar and between the uprights, "A" has earned 3 points and a win.