Questionable Calls Superbowl 43

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by fljet

heres some good evidence of missed holding calls as well as harrisons punch out of #47. since half of you probably were to busy drinking cosmopolitans to take notes

http://www.worstrefcalls.com/superbowl2009.html

No we actually know how to call the game and have done so for real, not from just our couch.

Get over it, the game is over. Arizona lost the game. They could have stopped the Steelers in the last two minutes and they would have won. I guess the officials did not tackle very well.

[fljet]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

No we actually know how to call the game and have done so for real, not from just our couch.

Get over it, the game is over. Arizona lost the game. They could have stopped the Steelers in the last two minutes and they would have won. I guess the officials did not tackle very well.

Im not a cardinals fan, just sick of watching horrible calls in the biggest game.
I love watching your lame a@@ excuses, like it happened so fast, dude #62 had a hold of ben the whole way to the ground, we are talking multiple seconds, not just a tug

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by fljet

Im not a cardinals fan, just sick of watching horrible calls in the biggest game.
I love watching your lame a@@ excuses, like it happened so fast, dude #62 had a hold of ben the whole way to the ground, we are talking multiple seconds, not just a tug

Honestly I do not care if you are a Cardinal fan or a Ram's fan.

You keep talking about lame excuses but you are coming to a gun fight with a knife. You are like talking to 1st grader about college stuff. You do not even understand the rules you are claiming were missed or not called. The best example is who tripped over someone as if that absolves someone from a foul (Oh Brother).

And holding is called based a couple of philosophies. Having a jersey is not holding and never is called that way at the pro level or the college level. If a player is getting beat and driven into the ground, that is not going to be called holding. And in the NFL they want a take down, not just a tug for some seconds. And the defender has to do something to try get away. It is called "stronger legs." If they called it the way you wanted, then you would not have a single play without a penalty. You have to do a little more than just have a jersey. But dope heads like you get mad at all the penalties, but have no idea when a penalty is committed by the standards of the rules and the interpretations the rules makers give them.

Peace

[RMR]

You just gotta love these nutless, done nothing, been nowhere types going on about "this call or that call was so flagrant or so obvious" BS.

There are those who can do and those who can do no more than complain. It would be funny if it weren't so sad.

[zm1283]

After watching the video, the roughing penalty on Dansby was WEAK. This is the freaking NFL, not tiddlywinks.

The holding call against Roderick Hood at the start of the 4th quarter was awful.

Nobody has explained why the final "fumble" by Warner wasn't reviewed on the field. You all keep claiming it was a fumble, but how would the officials on the field know without replay?

Keep up with the character attacks about age, etc. It makes you guys look more desperate.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by zm1283

After watching the video, the roughing penalty on Dansby was WEAK. This is the freaking NFL, not tiddlywinks.

If it was weak, change the rule. You cannot hit the holder ever on your own no matter when it happens or how it happens. He was not blocked into him and he had time to avoid any contact. That is the rule at all levels!!!!! (Maybe not the new A-11 Federation )

Originally Posted by zm1283

The holding call against Roderick Hood at the start of the 4th quarter was awful.

I do not remember the play and honestly do not care.

Originally Posted by zm1283

Nobody has explained why the final "fumble" by Warner wasn't reviewed on the field. You all keep claiming it was a fumble, but how would the officials on the field know without replay?

Why should anyone tell you, you already know the rules and understand the philosophies.

The official answer, the replay officials already reviewed the play and did not need to take a different look. It was a fumble, the ball was knocked out of his hand. His arm going forward has nothing to do with a pass when you lose control of the ball. It is called "empty hands." It is not only a common call, but not one that always needs a review. But you knew that right?

Originally Posted by zm1283

Keep up with the character attacks about age, etc. It makes you guys look more desperate.

Then stop acting like a dumbazz. When you get an explanation you claim you know more than anyone here. And you have never officiated a mini mite game before.

[Welpe]

I'm going to say this and be done with this foolishness. The crew did not have a perfect game. If you take the time to actually read some of the officiating forums, you will see this is discussed amongst officials.

You can even feel you had a lousy game, but as an official, to come onto a forum for a sport you do not officiate and to show a total lack of respect for your fellow officials is reprehensible. There are games I feel that NBA officials did not have a great game, I believe that game six of the 2002 Western Conference finals was a good example of such. I'm not about to jump on the basketball forum and start slamming the officials, calling them incompetent, etc. We should be above that and show some professional courtesey where it is due.

I doubt this will sink in, but I am hoping that somewhere it will eventually. We take enough garbage from fans, coaches and even players, we don't need to deal with it from each other. Hopefully as you grow as an official, you will come to realize this.

[zm1283]

Originally Posted by Welpe

I'm going to say this and be done with this foolishness. The crew did not have a perfect game. If you take the time to actually read some of the officiating forums, you will see this is discussed amongst officials.

You can even feel you had a lousy game, but as an official, to come onto a forum for a sport you do not officiate and to show a total lack of respect for your fellow officials is reprehensible. There are games I feel that NBA officials did not have a great game, I believe that game six of the 2002 Western Conference finals was a good example of such. I'm not about to jump on the basketball forum and start slamming the officials, calling them incompetent, etc. We should be above that and show some professional courtesey where it is due.

I doubt this will sink in, but I am hoping that somewhere it will eventually. We take enough garbage from fans, coaches and even players, we don't need to deal with it from each other. Hopefully as you grow as an official, you will come to realize this.

Fair enough. It may not even be the officials themselves, although I do think NFL officials are the most inconsistent of any in pro sports.

I'm even more upset with the NFL itself for what it has become. The roughing the passer rules are ridiculous. The celebration rules are ridiculous. That doesn't even scratch the surface. As I said in my last reply, instant replay is a joke.

Believe it or not, I'm not the only person who thinks the NFL favors certain teams over others.

[zm1283]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

If it was weak, change the rule. You cannot hit the holder ever on your own no matter when it happens or how it happens. He was not blocked into him and he had time to avoid any contact. That is the rule at all levels!!!!! (Maybe not the new A-11 Federation )

Wrong play. Dansby was called for roughing the passer when he knocked Ben down.

I do not remember the play and honestly do not care.

Ticky-tack defensive holding call when the DB made a great play.

The official answer, the replay officials already reviewed the play and did not need to take a different look. It was a fumble, the ball was knocked out of his hand. His arm going forward has nothing to do with a pass when you lose control of the ball. It is called "empty hands." It is not only a common call, but not one that always needs a review. But you knew that right?

Translation: The NFL looked at it and realized they might have to overturn the biggest call of the game, so they tell everyone they reviewed it upstairs and called it good.

Side note: Instant replay is a freaking joke.

Then stop acting like a dumbazz. When you get an explanation you claim you know more than anyone here. And you have never officiated a mini mite game before.

You don't know that.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by zm1283

Wrong play. Dansby was called for roughing the passer when he knocked Ben down.

I did not like the call either, but that does not mean it was not correct. The NFL does not want unnecessary hits on QBs and I saw that same call made multiple times all year. That is what the NFL wants, that is what the NFL gets. Defensive player should have known that. Everyone seems to know that (but you of course).

Originally Posted by zm1283

Ticky-tack defensive holding call when the DB made a great play.

I do not know if it was or if it was not. You cannot grab, contact or push a receiver after 5 yards. I saw that call all year-round.

Originally Posted by zm1283

Translation: The NFL looked at it and realized they might have to overturn the biggest call of the game, so they tell everyone they reviewed it upstairs and called it good.

Side note: Instant replay is a freaking joke.

It really does not matter what you think the translation was, it was the right call. You do not need to review something that is correct in the first place. And you have to have control of the ball to be considered a pass. The ball cannot be on your arm, it must be in your hand.

Originally Posted by zm1283

You don't know that.

And if you did, what qualifications does that give you?

Peace

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by zm1283

The holding call against Roderick Hood at the start of the 4th quarter was awful.

Are you referring to the play where Hood grabbed Hines Ward by the back of the jersey at least 2 different times?

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by fljet

Im not a cardinals fan, just sick of watching horrible calls in the biggest game.
I love watching your lame a@@ excuses, like it happened so fast, dude #62 had a hold of ben the whole way to the ground, we are talking multiple seconds, not just a tug

What's your lame-a$$ excuse for not answering direct questions, not acknowleging factual contridictions of your assertions, and most importantly, what is your excuse for not being an official yourself?

Just wondering as I sit here drinking cosmopolitans and inspecting my raincoats for wear and tear.

[kdf5]

Originally Posted by fljet

Im not a cardinals fan, just sick of watching horrible calls in the biggest game.
I love watching your lame a@@ excuses, like it happened so fast, dude #62 had a hold of ben the whole way to the ground, we are talking multiple seconds, not just a tug

Hey! I urged you earlier to get ahold of your local high school and college associations and get yourself signed up to be an official. How's that going? Oh. What? You're too big a pussy to do that? We can tell.

[JasonTX]

What I don't understand is we have all these knuckleheads complaining about the officiating but not a single one is trying to be a solution to making anything better. Get off you lazy boy and go join an officiating group and work your way up to the NFL to improve what you think needs improving. As for sportswriters. In order to drive up their ratings they ALWAYS write about something they perceive to be controversial even if that means creating their own bogus rule in their mind and then write about how the officials missed it. You would never have near as many fans logging on to read about how the officials called a perfect game. Fans just don't care about the good calls an official makes, they really don't care. They'd much rather see officials make bad calls, because that's where our society has gone. We'd much rather have something to rumble about and have someone to point the finger at. But Lord knows the teams can never be blamed. They don't make mistakes right?

[fljet]

Originally Posted by JasonTX

What I don't understand is we have all these knuckleheads complaining about the officiating but not a single one is trying to be a solution to making anything better. Get off you lazy boy and go join an officiating group and work your way up to the NFL to improve what you think needs improving. As for sportswriters. In order to drive up their ratings they ALWAYS write about something they perceive to be controversial even if that means creating their own bogus rule in their mind and then write about how the officials missed it. You would never have near as many fans logging on to read about how the officials called a perfect game. Fans just don't care about the good calls an official makes, they really don't care. They'd much rather see officials make bad calls, because that's where our society has gone. We'd much rather have something to rumble about and have someone to point the finger at. But Lord knows the teams can never be blamed. They don't make mistakes right?

1.I got one solution, stop letting the referee on the field rule on instant replay, have a central office in NY and force Mike Perriera to cover his own *** and not officials. I believe both MLB and NHL have this format, takes the pressure of the head official anyways Im sure they wont mind.

2.Automatic Review all forward pass fumble deals, NFL REFs are very inconsistent on these type of plays.

The first forward pass from SB43, ruled a fumble is a great example, a team should not have to waste a challenge because Mcually and his crew couldnt make a gut decision in crunchtime. It was not even that close in my opinion. A big surprise the 2nd one was ruled a fumble?

3. Get rid of celebration bull**** rules, most are hillarious to watch and do not cause any harm. This is the NFL not pop warner.

4. add another official behind the referee to rule on long returns, since most flanks in the NFL cant get down the field at the same speed as the players. Or get ran over trying to get down the middle of the field. THe flank in the SB was to busy dodging players and coaches on the sideline to see any of the blocks anyways and was WAY behind the play even though harrison runs a 6.5 in the 40

5. No more 15 yard only facemask, anyone who has played footbal knows that incidental contact occurs often. too judgemental of a call. takes the pressure of the official.