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Old Sun Dec 21, 2008, 06:59pm
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Also, is there a progression of where refs are assigned?
In our area, you don't get assigned to "positions" for subvarsity games. You show up and the crew hired discusses who will work what positions. I had to be prepared to work any position and also be ready to work 3, 4, or 5 man mechanics.

The first question is usually "what position do you normally work". My first few games I mostly worked the wings so I usually answered that way and worked most of the year as a wing. I got on a varsity crew my second year as a LJ and stayed there for 5 years. During those seasons, I tried to work the R or U during sub-varsity games to give myself experience at every position.

You'll eventually find a particular position that you enjoy the most but don't try to decide that your first couple years.
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Old Sun Dec 21, 2008, 09:28pm
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In our area, you don't get assigned to "positions" for subvarsity games. You show up and the crew hired discusses who will work what positions. I had to be prepared to work any position and also be ready to work 3, 4, or 5 man mechanics.

The first question is usually "what position do you normally work". My first few games I mostly worked the wings so I usually answered that way and worked most of the year as a wing. I got on a varsity crew my second year as a LJ and stayed there for 5 years. During those seasons, I tried to work the R or U during sub-varsity games to give myself experience at every position.

You'll eventually find a particular position that you enjoy the most but don't try to decide that your first couple years.
Good advice here. I do the journal thing and find that it really makes a difference. I'd suggest starting as a wing official. In varsity, I started as a LJ and did that for 4 years, then one as a BJ and now I'm the referee on my own crew. I always thought I'd like being a back judge, but I found it not as enjoyable as the sidelines. All this said, I suggest being opportunistic.

Listen, observe and take it all in. There's nothig worse than a new official that thinks they know it all (which was me). You may know the rule and case book better then the rest of the crew, but there are a lot of things that aren't in the book that will make you a great official...these things you only learn by talking to other official and paying attention to you other crew members.

As a side, you want to sound smart. A referee is the guy that wears the white hat and signals the penalties to the press box; everyone else is refered to as officials. Most fan will generically refer to all officials as referees, but most officials will not.
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Old Sun Dec 21, 2008, 09:46pm
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As for mentoring, try to hook up with a crew. Go with them to the games on Friday. I doubt any crew would not want to have you along. Absorb all you can from the pre-game, half-time and post-game. Walk the sideline with the wings and ask questions. Observe one position at a time and how they move on various plays. Talk to them about what their "keys" are before each play. I found that the toughest thing to do is figure out what to look at when there are 22 players moving at the same time. When you know your keys and what to look for, it becomes a whole lot easier to focus. Get a copy of their pre-game sheet and go over it before you get to the game site.
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Old Sun Dec 21, 2008, 11:43pm
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Work every game you can, no matter the level. Nothing teaches more than reps.
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Old Mon Dec 22, 2008, 09:38am
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Never feel comfortable with where you are. If you're not trying to better yourself, you're getting worse.
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Old Mon Dec 22, 2008, 10:25am
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I agree about working as many games as possible. My first couple of years, if I didn't have a game that day, I would go find one and offer to work for free. Nobody ever turned me down. I probably did as many free ones as paid games, but the experience was invaluable.
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Old Mon Dec 22, 2008, 10:27am
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Never feel comfortable with where you are. If you're not trying to better yourself, you're getting worse.
Along these notes, also call every play like you're being evaluated for the next level. Try not to take any plays "off", sometimes easier said than done especially right after an 80 yd sprint.
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Old Mon Dec 22, 2008, 02:07pm
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Old Tue Dec 23, 2008, 08:30am
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In our area, you don't get assigned to "positions" for subvarsity games. You show up and the crew hired discusses who will work what positions. I had to be prepared to work any position and also be ready to work 3, 4, or 5 man mechanics.

The first question is usually "what position do you normally work". My first few games I mostly worked the wings so I usually answered that way and worked most of the year as a wing. I got on a varsity crew my second year as a LJ and stayed there for 5 years. During those seasons, I tried to work the R or U during sub-varsity games to give myself experience at every position.
Our association's training director is big on first and second years tasting every position. If you answer "I normally work the middle" he's likely to put you out on the wings. If you say "I don't like being an umpire" guess where you're working. He wants to make sure you get a full range of experience so that when you declare what position you're going to work as a third-year official, you're sure.
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