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Old Mon Dec 08, 2008, 09:30am
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Excuse me "grasshopper" but the REAl real goal is to manage and control the game properly, insuring the rules are applied appropriately so that neither team gains an unfair or unearned advantage as inconspicuously as possible without becoming a nusince or a factor in it's outcome.

Knowing the rules is extremely important, but not nearly as much as understanding how and when to apply them. Sometimes being precise isn't always all it's cracked up to be and common sense is a necessary tool.
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Old Mon Dec 08, 2008, 10:16am
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Knowing the rules is extremely important, but not nearly as much as understanding how and when to apply them. Sometimes being precise isn't always all it's cracked up to be and common sense is a necessary tool.
I dunno. The best answer yet to "why did you do that?" is: "That's the rule, coach (supervisor, etc.)"
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Old Mon Dec 08, 2008, 12:42pm
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I looked at it and said, "Okay, yeah, that makes sense." I didn't know there was no warning anymore. Kudos to Danielson for knowing. (And I went to Florida.)

They did miss about four face mask calls, though.
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Old Tue Dec 09, 2008, 09:51am
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I looked at it and said, "Okay, yeah, that makes sense." I didn't know there was no warning anymore. Kudos to Danielson for knowing. (And I went to Florida.)

They did miss about four face mask calls, though.
Don't remember the plays you're referring to, but you do realize they eliminated the 5 yard facemask in college, right? A simple grasp and release is not a foul any longer.
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Old Tue Dec 09, 2008, 10:09am
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I know. I was talking about the guy's head turning. One was on a kickoff return, IIRC. I'd have to check the tape.
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Old Tue Dec 09, 2008, 10:26pm
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Prediction - there will be a rule change next season that essentially validates what was done this year as correct, even though, by current rule, it is not. Texas put the word out prior to the season beginning that the sideline rule could be handled as a dead ball foul (even though rule says it is not) The fact it is also penalized as a dead ball foul will make it even easier to justify just changing the rule wording a little bit.

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From Florida Gators Country Football Meyer relieved when BCS picks Gators

Meyer picked up the first penalty of his coaching career Saturday night against Alabama in the fourth quarter. With the Gators leading 24-20 and the ball an inch away from the Alabama goal, Florida was flagged for sideline interference by side judge Chris Conley. From second and goal an inch away, the ball was moved back five yards and it could have contributed to a different final outcome if Tim Tebow hadn’t connected with Riley Cooper for a touchdown pass on third down and goal.

“That was wrong,” said Meyer, who voiced his displeasure with the call in his post game remarks. “I need an answer for that one.”

Meyer explained what was going on when he got called for the penalty.

“What happened was one of their players kicked the ball,” said Meyer. “One of their players ran through our formation --- they had 12 people on the field --- and the guy kicked the ball and the official stops the clock and the referee --- I thought he did a great job throughout the game just handling the game --- resets the clock and they stop the game. Phil Trautwein and our offense, they start walking toward me. They thought it was a time out. As they’re resetting the clock so we have a time issue. I’m 35 yards away and the ball is on the one inch line or foot line going in. I’m saying, ‘Get back in there! Get back in there!’ I start walking back and someone says there’s a flag and I thought delay of game. I said delay of game? And that’s what the call was.

“Major implications in that game. Four point lead and 35 yards away from what’s going on. … I’m on the 30 yard line and that ball is on the one-foot line. There was a mechanical procedural, resetting the clock and with a noisy stadium they couldn’t hear.”

Meyer implied that he is taking the penalty up with the SEC office, saying, “We’re addressing it.”
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Old Mon Dec 08, 2008, 08:25pm
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Excuse me "grasshopper" but the REAl real goal is to manage and control the game properly, insuring the rules are applied appropriately so that neither team gains an unfair or unearned advantage
Which can be summed up in 5 words as "officiate the game properly".

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as inconspicuously as possible
Why are you all about this hiding stuff? Sometimes the official must stand out.

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without becoming a nusince or a factor in it's outcome.
Everything the officials do the entire game effects the outcome. It is naive to believe that result could have been exactly the same with different officials.

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Knowing the rules is extremely important, but not nearly as much as understanding how and when to apply them. Sometimes being precise isn't always all it's cracked up to be and common sense is a necessary tool.
If I was the opposing coach I would have requested a conference with the referee regarding what foul was just called. How does the referee justify your "common sense" ruling?
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