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Apparently they appealed to the state supreme court, even.
See, this is the can of worms you open when you make exceptions to rules.
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I’ll bet this situation is less about rule knowledge or lack thereof and more about how to apply filters to make an important decision while under extreme pressure - that’s the direction this discussion should move. A little empathy for a fellow official(s), that you know feels worse than anybody, wouldn’t hurt either.
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Mississippi High School Football Game Goes All The Way To State Supreme Court
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Thank the good Lord for web-embedded video!!
An incomplete IFP. Could it be the crew ruled fumble, but then came and talked about it, and it then went to IFP? Play didn't end when the ball hit the ground. Rule fumble and it's game over. Perhaps they out-thought themselves. |
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regarding protests
Regarding the fact that protests are not allowed, I believe in 99% of all cases a reversal such as this would be dangerous as a precedent.
But in this case there is a clear and obvious exception. By rule, the GAME WAS OVER. The mistake by the officials, therefore, actually came after the game was technically complete. I believe that gives the Mississippi office what it needed. Basically, they did not need to overturn anything. All they had to do was revert the game to the correct conclusion of the game.
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What was the play in New York earlier in the year, the one that one of our posters had? We were empathetic in that instance. No doubt, no one feels worse than they do. We ALL make mistakes. They're just not all in state playoff games, and they don't usually go to the state supreme court. I agree with you, though - this is a pressure-filled job. Some handle it better than others. My guess is that one handles it better after one kicks it than after just studying. They always say "crash and burn is the way to learn."
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from looking at the video.
There are two plays. From what I see on the video it appears that they ruled the forward pass as a penalty. Becuase the black team recoved in the endzone. And then gave an untimed down. Why would they run another play after the forward pass? NEVERMIND- I went back and read the first page again. Got lost in all the replys. |
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The state got it right. I think the state should rule in such cases of an obvious mistake in rule interpretation. There should be no protests in judgment calls.
I don't think the rules are all that complicated. This rule was put in to eliminate a loophole that allowed the offense to get another play by deliberately fouling. Good rule and good job by the state. My problem is with the crew on the field. If it is like many crews, the non-whitehats usually leave penalty enforcement knowledge to the whitehat. What should have happened was one or more of them helping the whitehat get it right by stepping up and correcting him. As a whitehat, I'd love to have someone on my crew step up when I need help. |
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