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Old Thu Nov 20, 2008, 06:07pm
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This begs the question of how supposedly college-educated sportswriters could have blown such a critical sentence because they don't know grammar. It raises a rather ugly question of just how competent some of these sportswriters really are.
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Old Thu Nov 20, 2008, 06:31pm
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The article has the mandatory sportswriters' abuse of this phrase.

Weirdly, the second sentence exhibits correct usage.

(If you have no idea what I'm talking about, see this site.)

All we needed were the terms "Physicality" and "Step Up" and we would've had most of the cliches covered, no?
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Old Thu Nov 20, 2008, 06:38pm
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110% and one game at a time were on the bench, waiting to come in.
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Old Thu Nov 20, 2008, 07:22pm
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The article has the mandatory sportswriters' abuse of this phrase.

Weirdly, the second sentence exhibits correct usage.

(If you have no idea what I'm talking about, see this site.)
Oh, I knew. We covered logic and argumentation in one of my college philosophy classes.
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Old Sat Nov 22, 2008, 10:53am
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I’ll bet this situation is less about rule knowledge or lack thereof and more about how to apply filters to make an important decision while under extreme pressure - that’s the direction this discussion should move. A little empathy for a fellow official(s), that you know feels worse than anybody, wouldn’t hurt either.
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Old Sat Nov 22, 2008, 11:15am
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It is ALL about what dumbref said.

It's about being able to step back, gather the crew, and lead. There's no way that a good crew chief wouldn't sort this out if he had kept a level head and asked the right questions. Unless, of course, he simply didn't know the rules, which would be a shame.
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Old Mon Nov 24, 2008, 02:40pm
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I’ll bet this situation is less about rule knowledge or lack thereof and more about how to apply filters to make an important decision while under extreme pressure - that’s the direction this discussion should move. A little empathy for a fellow official(s), that you know feels worse than anybody, wouldn’t hurt either.
Oh, no question.

What was the play in New York earlier in the year, the one that one of our posters had? We were empathetic in that instance.

No doubt, no one feels worse than they do. We ALL make mistakes. They're just not all in state playoff games, and they don't usually go to the state supreme court.

I agree with you, though - this is a pressure-filled job. Some handle it better than others. My guess is that one handles it better after one kicks it than after just studying. They always say "crash and burn is the way to learn."
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Old Tue Nov 25, 2008, 08:04am
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from looking at the video.
There are two plays.
From what I see on the video it appears that they ruled the forward pass as a penalty. Becuase the black team recoved in the endzone.
And then gave an untimed down.
Why would they run another play after the forward pass?

NEVERMIND- I went back and read the first page again. Got lost in all the replys.
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Old Sat Nov 22, 2008, 11:37am
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Mississippi High School Football Game Goes All The Way To State Supreme Court

Found this on another board
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Old Sat Nov 22, 2008, 10:25pm
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Thank the good Lord for web-embedded video!!

An incomplete IFP.

Could it be the crew ruled fumble, but then came and talked about it, and it then went to IFP? Play didn't end when the ball hit the ground. Rule fumble and it's game over. Perhaps they out-thought themselves.
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Old Sun Nov 23, 2008, 02:08pm
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regarding protests

Regarding the fact that protests are not allowed, I believe in 99% of all cases a reversal such as this would be dangerous as a precedent.

But in this case there is a clear and obvious exception.

By rule, the GAME WAS OVER. The mistake by the officials, therefore, actually came after the game was technically complete. I believe that gives the Mississippi office what it needed. Basically, they did not need to overturn anything. All they had to do was revert the game to the correct conclusion of the game.
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