Nfhs 8.3.9

[JugglingReferee]

Originally Posted by MNBlue

"After a try, the opponent of the scoring team shall designate which team will kick off."

I had a first year official ask me "WTF", why would they ever choose to kick. I have never seen it happen - anyone else ever see it?

What is the history behind this rule?

CANADIAN RULING:

Same thing exists up here. Never seen it. We rarely mention or talk about it.

[nelson_28602]

I may not have all this correct, but I think in the old "Hula Bowl" game played in Honululu, the game used this rule in the 4th quarter. If you scored and you were behind, you RECEIVED the next kickoff! I cannot remember if this was an All-Star game or an actual bowl contest. Maybe someone else may remember this.

[Robert Goodman]

Originally Posted by JugglingReferee

CANADIAN RULING:

Same thing exists up here. Never seen it. We rarely mention or talk about it.

Yeah, but I saw it on one of those CFL games NBC televised during a NFL strike. A team which was far behind scored a TD, recovered their onside kick, scored another, and then the scored-against team, still well ahead, kicked off deep (at that time from the 45) to prevent the other team from recovering yet another with good field position. It helps that in Canadian football you don't have to yield opportunity to catch the ball and you can advance your own kickoff.

Robert

[wwcfoa43]

When I played junior high school football, our league did not have good punters and field position was paramount. Our coaches decided to kick-off many times when scored upon to put the ball in the opponent's end.

[CaUmpJW]

I have seen it used once. The coach was up 66 to 0 when the opponent finally scored against his third stringers. He elected kick off to them. I do not know how the coach knew about the rule. It was class on his part.

[HL Clippenchain]

OK, since we're talking about this...

Let's say, A scores on a windy day and a sloggy field. The try for point ties the game early in the 4th quarter. B's captain informs you that they want to kick.

How do you go about informing both sides what is about to happen (assuming you're not mic'ed)?

Do we call both teams captains out to the 50?
Do we only communicate to an A captain, since B knows what's going on?
Do we simply trot over to A's coach and tell him what's up?
Do we confirm with B's coach that he wants to kick, then go to A's coach to inform him?
Is there a signal or indication that R needs to make?

Basically, I'm just wondering that how we communicate this to all interested parties in an efficient manner, keeping in mind that it will NEVER happen.

Thanks,
HLC

[JugglingReferee]

I can see this choice being used in Canada when late in the game, the team scored upon previously elected to apply a UR foul (to their benefit) on the ensuing kick-off, and the try tied the game or put A up by 1.

Play: 0:16 left in the 4Q. A scores, and after the foul, A also commits UR. B chooses to apply on the kick-off, because they believe that A's quality kicker wll make the PAT on the try anyway.

Ruling: With the expected choice of A kicking-off, they would do so 15 yards back, at their own 30. But B surprises us and elects to kick-off. Instead of their own 45, they now kick-off at the A-50. Kicking a single point here could win the game.

[jack015]

The rule states "after a try" the opponet of the scoring team chooses who will kickoff. Do they have the same option after a successful field goal?