Foul by B

[Bob M.]

Originally Posted by Suudy

...I can't think of an example where a loose ball that becomes dead in advance of the goal line where 10-4-7 would apply.

REPLY: Try this one...A's pass is intercepted by B2 at B's 5. Trying to elude tacklers, he circles back into his endzone (force is his carry). A3 in attempting to tackle him grabs his face mask. B2 fumbles and the ball rolls out into the field of play where either A4 or B4 recover at B's 2.

[Suudy]

Originally Posted by Bob M.

REPLY: Try this one...A's pass is intercepted by B2 at B's 5. Trying to elude tacklers, he circles back into his endzone (force is his carry). A3 in attempting to tackle him grabs his face mask. B2 fumbles and the ball rolls out into the field of play where either A4 or B4 recover at B's 2.

So we have 1st and 10 from the B15? Not 1st and 10 from the B17?

[Bob M.]

Originally Posted by Suudy

So we have 1st and 10 from the B15? Not 1st and 10 from the B17?

REPLY: Correct. This is one where 10-4-7 applies. The enforcement would have been the same had he been tackled in the endzone without a fumble.

[Welpe]

Originally Posted by Bob M.

The enforcement would have been the same had he been tackled in the endzone without a fumble.

Bob, could you please explain why this is? It seems that rule 10-4-7 applies only if a loose ball occurs after the related run ends. Am I just misreading the rule?

Thanks!

[Bob M.]

Originally Posted by Welpe

Bob, could you please explain why this is? It seems that rule 10-4-7 applies only if a loose ball occurs after the related run ends. Am I just misreading the rule?

Thanks!

REPLY: Welpe...I wasn't meaning to imply that 10-4-7 governs the play when there's no fumble, only that the result would be the same, i.e. enforcement from the offensive team's goal line. I don't have my rule book with me today (I know...a sin) but the governing rule is a Special Enforcement (was 10-5-2 in 2006) that says: "The enforcement spot for any foul by the defense is the goal line when the run ends in the end zone and would result in a safety."

[Welpe]

Thank you for the reply, Bob. I understand now what you're saying. Incidently, I do have my books with me today since I have a game this afternoon and I just read about that special enforcementon my break. The light bulb went off that this is exactly what you were talking about.

Thanks again, I appreciate the amount of knowledge you have to share with everybody and the time you take to do so!