Change this damn rule!!!!

[ABO77]

Rut I agree this TO before the snap is cheap, but only allowing players to call a TO has a small loophole.

2-32-15 ...a sub becomes a player when he enters the field and communicates with a teammate OR AN OFFICIAL...

All the coach has to do is tell B12 to step on to the field and call a TO right in front of the wingman. Of course this might not work inside the 25yd, but you get my point. And of course the LB can still call a TO to the Ump.

I just dont know how you could word this rule change?

[JRutledge]

And you know all of that would and could delay the possibility for a timeout. At the very least it would require more of an effort to call a timeout instead of just standing near the ear of the official and calling a timeout.

I would not be surprised if at least mechanically the philosophy might change.

Peace

[MD Longhorn]

I hesitate to agree with Jim ...

But the only reason we've seen this 3 times recently is that it worked the first time. The next two, the kicker made the kick twice.

And this nonsense will continue until the kicker misses the FIRST one, and gets a 2nd chance - making the 2nd one. We only need to wait for that day, and the fad will go away.

[raiderfan]

I don't have my book... NFHS ..I thought the wing or any other official had to make eye contact with the coach before calling the TO. If I'm on a wing and watching the LOS , I am not going to look away . This is especially important when inside the 25.

[jimpiano]

Originally Posted by mbcrowder

I hesitate to agree with Jim ...

But the only reason we've seen this 3 times recently is that it worked the first time. The next two, the kicker made the kick twice.

And this nonsense will continue until the kicker misses the FIRST one, and gets a 2nd chance - making the 2nd one. We only need to wait for that day, and the fad will go away.

I want to be at the post game news conference with the losing coach when that happens.

[parepat]

I would change it that when K lines up in scrimmage kick formation, that R can not call time out within the last 5 seconds of the play clock. Thus, if K waits to the last 5 seconds before the kick, they can be assured no timeout. Thus R can still ice the kicker, but not right before the kick.

I agree the rule needs to change. I had a sit last Friday where O had a running play, and the clock was winding down. I heard someone yelling timeout from the sideline, and looked over to see IF it was the HEAD coach. I see him signalling and yelling timeout, at the same time, I've got an assistant coach running a beeline at me yelling "He's calling timeout, he's calling timeout!" I blow my whistle and signal the timeout and then the assistant coach said "Jeez! 9 seconds lost off the clock!"

What did you just say? I walked up to the assistant and said loudly enough for EVERYONE on the sideline to hear "I was looking to make sure your HEAD coach was saying it. You don't need to run up to me and scream in my face. Next time you even do that may be the last time you do it on the sideline tonight!" He shook his head and turned away from me. I had to have a word with the head coach and told him to get his coaching staff under control. He had this look like, wow, you don't take much s**t, do you???

At halftime, my crew was asking me what happened, so I told the same story I just told you all. We decided to have the R, U, and myself (HL) talk with the head coach and reiterate the rule and ask him to tone his assistant down. Had no problems in the second half with any of the coaches on that sideline.

[MD Longhorn]

Originally Posted by Ref Ump Welsch

I agree the rule needs to change. I had a sit last Friday where O had a running play, and the clock was winding down. I heard someone yelling timeout from the sideline, and looked over to see IF it was the HEAD coach. I see him signalling and yelling timeout, at the same time, I've got an assistant coach running a beeline at me yelling "He's calling timeout, he's calling timeout!" I blow my whistle and signal the timeout and then the assistant coach said "Jeez! 9 seconds lost off the clock!"

What did you just say? I walked up to the assistant and said loudly enough for EVERYONE on the sideline to hear "I was looking to make sure your HEAD coach was saying it. You don't need to run up to me and scream in my face. Next time you even do that may be the last time you do it on the sideline tonight!" He shook his head and turned away from me. I had to have a word with the head coach and told him to get his coaching staff under control. He had this look like, wow, you don't take much s**t, do you???

At halftime, my crew was asking me what happened, so I told the same story I just told you all. We decided to have the R, U, and myself (HL) talk with the head coach and reiterate the rule and ask him to tone his assistant down. Had no problems in the second half with any of the coaches on that sideline.

Just curious why you had this conversation with the assistant coach at all. If any warnings need to be delivered to any assistants - they need to be given to them by the head coach, and you need to be giving the warnings regarding assistants to the head coach. I never engage an irate assistant. I'll talk briefly to polite ones or those that just have questions or information. But irate ones don't get any direct responses.