Change this damn rule!!!!

[JRutledge]

The NFL, NCAA and NF all need to get rid of this rule that coaches can call timeout. What happened in the Dallas-Buffalo game is the reason you need to get rid of that rule.

Wow, what an ending.

Peace

[jimpiano]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

The NFL, NCAA and NF all need to get rid of this rule that coaches can call timeout. What happened in the Dallas-Buffalo game is the reason you need to get rid of that rule.

Wow, what an ending.

Peace

No need to get rid of the rule.
The first coach that ends up losing on a re-kick of a missed field goal will end the practice.

[MJT]

Some say strategy and some say BS. You cannot prevent it anyway, cuz if the coach cannot call it, they will just have a LB tell the U so what's the difference?

[Steven Tyler]

Buffalo-5 interceptions and 1 fumble recovery. They return two picks for scores and and on top of that they return a kickoff for a TD. They stop a two point conversion that have tied the game with 20 seconds left.

However, they cannot recover a onside kick and two pass plays later Dallas gets to beat them twice with a 53 yard field goal with no time remaining.

Music City Miracle is now Buffalo chips and wings, we have the most in the world.........

[ABO77]

I agree with MJT. For those who want to change the rule, what rule would you change??

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by ABO77

I agree with MJT. For those who want to change the rule, what rule would you change??

I have always thought it was a bad idea to give coaches the power to call a timeout. A player on the field has other responsibilities than a coach. I think they should require coaches only to call a timeout before the ready for play, but not while everyone is at the LOS. If a player calls a timeout, that would not bother me. But I think it is really bush to always call a timeout from the sideline when most officials are not aware of the request in the first place. If a player has to cover a play and they are late, they might get caught out of position. This is why I think only players should call a timeout during certain moments.

Peace

[ABO77]

Rut I agree this TO before the snap is cheap, but only allowing players to call a TO has a small loophole.

2-32-15 ...a sub becomes a player when he enters the field and communicates with a teammate OR AN OFFICIAL...

All the coach has to do is tell B12 to step on to the field and call a TO right in front of the wingman. Of course this might not work inside the 25yd, but you get my point. And of course the LB can still call a TO to the Ump.

I just dont know how you could word this rule change?

[JRutledge]

And you know all of that would and could delay the possibility for a timeout. At the very least it would require more of an effort to call a timeout instead of just standing near the ear of the official and calling a timeout.

I would not be surprised if at least mechanically the philosophy might change.

Peace

[MD Longhorn]

I hesitate to agree with Jim ...

But the only reason we've seen this 3 times recently is that it worked the first time. The next two, the kicker made the kick twice.

And this nonsense will continue until the kicker misses the FIRST one, and gets a 2nd chance - making the 2nd one. We only need to wait for that day, and the fad will go away.

[raiderfan]

I don't have my book... NFHS ..I thought the wing or any other official had to make eye contact with the coach before calling the TO. If I'm on a wing and watching the LOS , I am not going to look away . This is especially important when inside the 25.

[CO ump]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

But I think it is really bush to always call a timeout from the sideline when most officials are not aware of the request in the first place.

If the official is not aware of the request then no time is granted, moot point. If the official is aware then time is granted, no problem.
If the coach feels this will help his team and he is within the confines of the rules, why would you consider this "bush" or even care?

[jimpiano]

Originally Posted by mbcrowder

I hesitate to agree with Jim ...

But the only reason we've seen this 3 times recently is that it worked the first time. The next two, the kicker made the kick twice.

And this nonsense will continue until the kicker misses the FIRST one, and gets a 2nd chance - making the 2nd one. We only need to wait for that day, and the fad will go away.

I want to be at the post game news conference with the losing coach when that happens.

[parepat]

I would change it that when K lines up in scrimmage kick formation, that R can not call time out within the last 5 seconds of the play clock. Thus, if K waits to the last 5 seconds before the kick, they can be assured no timeout. Thus R can still ice the kicker, but not right before the kick.

I agree the rule needs to change. I had a sit last Friday where O had a running play, and the clock was winding down. I heard someone yelling timeout from the sideline, and looked over to see IF it was the HEAD coach. I see him signalling and yelling timeout, at the same time, I've got an assistant coach running a beeline at me yelling "He's calling timeout, he's calling timeout!" I blow my whistle and signal the timeout and then the assistant coach said "Jeez! 9 seconds lost off the clock!"

What did you just say? I walked up to the assistant and said loudly enough for EVERYONE on the sideline to hear "I was looking to make sure your HEAD coach was saying it. You don't need to run up to me and scream in my face. Next time you even do that may be the last time you do it on the sideline tonight!" He shook his head and turned away from me. I had to have a word with the head coach and told him to get his coaching staff under control. He had this look like, wow, you don't take much s**t, do you???

At halftime, my crew was asking me what happened, so I told the same story I just told you all. We decided to have the R, U, and myself (HL) talk with the head coach and reiterate the rule and ask him to tone his assistant down. Had no problems in the second half with any of the coaches on that sideline.

[MD Longhorn]

Originally Posted by Ref Ump Welsch

I agree the rule needs to change. I had a sit last Friday where O had a running play, and the clock was winding down. I heard someone yelling timeout from the sideline, and looked over to see IF it was the HEAD coach. I see him signalling and yelling timeout, at the same time, I've got an assistant coach running a beeline at me yelling "He's calling timeout, he's calling timeout!" I blow my whistle and signal the timeout and then the assistant coach said "Jeez! 9 seconds lost off the clock!"

What did you just say? I walked up to the assistant and said loudly enough for EVERYONE on the sideline to hear "I was looking to make sure your HEAD coach was saying it. You don't need to run up to me and scream in my face. Next time you even do that may be the last time you do it on the sideline tonight!" He shook his head and turned away from me. I had to have a word with the head coach and told him to get his coaching staff under control. He had this look like, wow, you don't take much s**t, do you???

At halftime, my crew was asking me what happened, so I told the same story I just told you all. We decided to have the R, U, and myself (HL) talk with the head coach and reiterate the rule and ask him to tone his assistant down. Had no problems in the second half with any of the coaches on that sideline.

Just curious why you had this conversation with the assistant coach at all. If any warnings need to be delivered to any assistants - they need to be given to them by the head coach, and you need to be giving the warnings regarding assistants to the head coach. I never engage an irate assistant. I'll talk briefly to polite ones or those that just have questions or information. But irate ones don't get any direct responses.